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Today is a sad day. Carroll Shelby, the legend, the man has passed away. I had known Carroll for about 10 years.  I met him when I was at Hot Wheels, he was a a very larger then life legend. There was nothing he wouldn't do or try and as a risk taker myself I was in awe of him. When Carroll asked me to run his Shelby Plant in Las Vegas, it was a dream come true. What a great brand, what a great team of guys, what great Shelby Customersand  most importantly what a man.

For the record Carroll and I had some great times and not so great times, I liken it all great relationships. You love, admire, fight, make up. He was a mentor, He was a father but most of all he was someone I admired to the end. I wish him peace and rest, and I am sure he is up in Heaven causing trouble already! 

Amy

1^st Inaugural Team Shelby Grand Nationals
Hosted by Team Shelby Northeast – June 5^th-9^th 2013

Registration Is Now Open Go To WWW.TEAMSHELBYNORTHEAST.COM


Team Shelby Northeast is proud to announce the first ever Team Shelby Grand Nationals.

This marque event will be held June 5^th – 9^th 2013 at Summit Point W.V. and Carlisle Pa.

We have enjoyed the excitement of the Shelby Bash in Las Vegas, and now Team Shelby will  host another annual national event - The Team Shelby Grand Nationals.

Our Grand National event will be exactly that. For this event, Team Shelby plans on moving this event to different region each year.

“IT ONLY HAPPENS THE FIRST TIME ONCE”

The 2012 Team Shelby Grand Nationals boasts two exciting days of track along with a cruise, grand party, car show and many other activities.

You will not want to miss this historic event. Stay tuned more details along with an updated website to come in the next few weeks. Registration will open in the beginning of January.

Buckle Up   Team Shelby Northeast, your in for a hell of a ride…
To Register Go To WWW.TEAMSHELBYNORTHEAST.COM

amyb, on 21 January 2010 - 10:03 PM, said:

Amy, yes, I was pissed at Sharon as all she had to offer me was an excuse that my order was among a large stack on her desk and that she was not getting any response from SPP so I would just have to wait like everyone else.  I did not get any confidence that it was a priority or much of a concern when I spoke to her.  There was no "cheap shot" (everything I said was true and accurate) and the last time I checked we lived in the USA where we have freedom of speach so your request for me to "watch your posting" is way out of line.  As I've said before I'm a loyal Shelby enthusiast and want to see you all do well so I get disappointed when the brand is let down by poor performance and excuses.  So, rather than chastise me, you should be looking into the problem and communicating what is going on with the fix to everyone who is waiting for stuff.  That's what a good "brand embassador" would do.  Look for the best in class and strive for it (not just in products/cars but in customer service too)!

Why does it even matter Phill? Is there something you need from Shelby that is not being addressed?  Is there something you need done to your car, or a question you need answered?

If so, here is what you need to do-
If you have a customer service question, call Gary Patterson, who has ALWAYS been VP of Sales and Marketing, Jer, who is VP of SPP, any registrar for questions or concerns of the registry, or for events, any one of your TS regional directors. (Who will all be more than happy to address)

If Roger is still an employee (which by what I have read, he is) but not in Vegas currently, what reason would anyone but the parties concerned have to share that?  If he is not, what business is it of anyone who is not working for SA or a shareholder of the company, in which case, they know who to contact for clarification or business needs.

Short of a scandal in the likes of Penn State, I see no reason to be demanding information that is not public.  I think Jer answered the question to the extent that it needed to be answered.

Why the drama? Seems pretty simple and clean cut to me.

Shelby American Bash 2013 Save The Date!!!

March 21st-24th

4 Days Full of Fun, Track, People and More!!!

More info to Come!!!

Hey guys/gals!

The wait is now over!

First off, I have to apologize for me taking forever to finally get to compile all this! I have been swamped with school, work and life haha. Now I seriously had hours and hours of footage, It was really a challenge to narrow it down to a mere 5 minutes. While doing this is I kept in mind that I wanted to still show sort of all the fun we had here!

I hope you enjoy it!

Here is the link, be sure to watch in HD!
P.S. be sure to "LIKE" and "SHARE" it



-Eric Shelby (Todd Shelby's son)

This is by no means a lucture, just one opinion from the other side of the ticket. I am a police officer (15yrs). I am now a detective and no longer in the radio car, but that being said when I was on the road,I tried to lead by example. What I mean by that, is I am a realist. I drove 80 in a 65 on the freeway, may not always come to a full stop at a stop sign, have tint on the windows of my show car that I cruise on weekends, and at times had to take a cell phone call. The one thing I never did was do any of this behavior when it was obvious that I could be putting somebody else at risk. So when I would patrol, I would be able to give people a break on the minor infractions that have to do with everyday life. I would never look the other way mind you, just give the benefit of the doubt whenever I could. Keep the spirited driving out of the residential areas, school zones, and construction zones. Ask yourself next time you drop the hammer for a quick smile, would I write myself for this? Just because you have a track inspired car, doesn't mean you can't enjoy it on the street! Have fun, and be safe! If the man gets ya, be honest. I'm sorry officer I'm a moron, LOL.

God speed to you Carroll. You are a legend, and your legend will continue to live on well past your earthly being. Please do us all the honor of kicking Enzo's ass all over heaven.

Team Shelby Northeast and Shelby American

In collaboration with

Carlisle Events and Summit Point Motorsports Park

Are pleased to announce the Grand Celebration

“Shelby American 50th Anniversary Celebration East”

May 30^th thru June 3^rd 2012

For more information and to register go to our event web site

WWW.TEAMSHELBYNORTHEAST.COM

Be a part of one of the largest gatherings in Shelby history as Team Shelby Northeast & Shelby American celebrate the 50th Anniversary of Shelby American in Carlisle, PA.

This is the year for Shelby owners to attend the Carlisle Ford Nationals for a once in a lifetime opportunity. Celebrate a historic milestone as we honor the company and the man that started it all, Carroll Shelby.

Carlisle Events is providing Team Shelby with a premium location to park 400 cars just steps from the Midway and grandstands.  This prime real estate at the Ford Nationals is a highly sought after location not shared by many. Team Shelby Northeast will put you in the center of all the excitement that is Carlisle. Imagine having Times Square, NYC for you to entertain you and your friends for a private event that lasts 3 days; that will be the feeling for Shelby owners at the 50^th Anniversary Celebration in Carlisle, PA.

Your Shelby will join hundreds of other Shelby vehicles from the last 50 years. This year we will make it official and let the world know that Carlisle, PA is the undisputed largest gathering of Shelbys in the world. Guinness World Record officials will be on hand to verify and document the 2012 Carlisle Ford Nationals / 50^th Anniversary Celebration as the official largest assembly of Shelby automobiles on the planet! This event is sure to go down as a notable milestone in Shelby history.

From a world class track event to a VIP entrance unlike anything you have ever witnessed before. An event so big it took 50 years to plan! Your event begins at Summit Point, West Virginia and its famous road course. Drive your Shelby the way Carroll Shelby designed it to be driven: Hard and fast!  This course is perfect for track novices and experts alike, with its long straights and winding s-curves. This event will give you the chance to learn how to achieve maximum performance from your vehicle while allowing bragging rights as you put your Shelby through the paces. The track event is open to all vehicles provided they meet the minimum safety requirements. We welcome all Shelby inspired and Ford cars, Bosses, Ford GTs, Vipers, Shelby Dodge etc. You will spend two days at the course and enjoy lunch on us both days. Receive pointers and advice from experienced Team Shelby owners as you dial in your beast to enjoy the finest American made performance cars ever built. (Professional driver instruction will be available for an additional charge for those who would like to learn how to squeeze even more performance out of their cars.) First class accommodations will be available for participants in downtown colonial Winchester, VA.

Shelby American’s display trailer will join VP of Sales and Operations, Gary Patterson along with other Shelby VIP’s to demo some of their new cars and answer any of your technical questions. Be a part of the “track the truck live” through the 50^th tour as the display rig travels from Summit Point to Carlisle, all live via Shelby American’s official 50^th tour website.

Once you have satisfied your track addiction, prepare for a winding drive from Summit Point through the mountains of Virginia and West Virginia. We’ll depart Friday morning on a poker run to the Carlisle Ford Nationals. Put your windows down, blast some great music and drive “Team Shelby Northeast style” in a caravan to the greatest Ford event in the world! But before we get to the Ford Nationals, we’ll be making a stop just minutes from Carlisle at Quarter Aces Drag-O-Way for a little straight line action. We’ll have the track all to ourselves for a two hour non-stop assault on this beautiful 1/8 mile drag strip. Bragging rights are up for grabs. Or perhaps you would like to challenge your buddy? Either way, a little track time for those who like to drag race. And only $20 per car, no matter how many fans and enthusiasts you have crammed in your Shelby!

When you arrive at Carlisle you will be entering the grounds and driving to the middle of the showfield via a grand entrance. Relax on Friday at the show because Friday night the Shelby American midway location will be open exclusively to the limited ticket holders for the VIP event. Prepare yourself for a grand entrance of special guests unlike anything you have ever experienced. You will then enjoy the finest food and beverage while meeting fellow Shelby owners and taking photos with our special guests. The best live band we can present will be playing while you take in this private event and meet legends of the automotive world. This event is exclusive and LIMITED providing you with a very intimate feel. A truly unbelievable list of special guests is scheduled to celebrate the 50^th Anniversary of one of the most famous performance car manufacturers in the world. This is an event worthy of the Shelby 50^th Anniversary Tour Celebration.

Team Shelby Northeast has also worked with Shelby American and Shelby owners across North America to assemble an awe inspiring collection of the rarest of rare Shelby Automobiles. We have created a collection of 26 vehicles to represent the best of Shelby over the last 50 years. Original Cobras? We have them! Early production 1965 GT350? We have it! One of the very few original owner GT350s with a Paxton supercharger. No problem! Vintage GT500s. GT500KRs and GT350 Hertzs? Check, check and check! Let's not forget about the rare Series one or the ultra rare F-150 Supersnake because we have them too. Terlinguas, a GT500KR pace car, the Supersnake prototype? No problem, we have those covered. A Don Prudhomme Supersnake, one of only 7 built? Come on, this is the 50^th Anniversary Celebration and we are bringing you a collection of the rarest cars in one place at one time worthy of a 50 year collection!

Saturday morning starts with the official recording of the largest gathering of Shelbys ever assembled. Join the 50^th Celebration and be a part of world history as we certify with Guinness World Records and Shelby once again takes another record. You and your Shelby will make the record as a documented part of Shelby history. Enjoy a fantastic BBQ lunch prepared exclusively for Team Shelby owners. Relax in the club's tent as a DJ spins great tunes from the past 50 years.

Team Shelby Northeast will once again host its own award ceremony featuring the Top 20 Best of Show awards. Even the most discriminating collector will want to be part of the silent action featuring banners, die casts and other memorabilia to benefit the Carroll Shelby foundation. Be in the front row to watch this year’s burnout contest and the Ms. Carlisle Ford Nationals/Shelby Girl Beauty Contest.

Saturday night means the Ford Parade & Street Party in downtown Carlisle. Not just any parade though; you can be a part of a 400 vehicle parade with a police escort as Shelby American and five decades of Shelbys lead you through historic downtown Carlisle, PA. Thousands of spectators will cheer you on as the streets are closed off for all but parade participants. You will park downtown and enjoy an old fashioned street party complete with hors d’ oeuvres. Local establishments will be open for you to enjoy the best that Carlisle merchants have to offer.

Sunday wraps up the event with Carlisle’s awards presentation. Will your Shelby take home a big prize?

Carlisle Ford Nationals, Shelby American and Team Shelby Northeast bring you an event 50 years in the making.

Buckle up! Team Shelby’s 50th Celebration East, it's going to be a wild of a ride!

For more information and to register go to our event web site

WWW.TEAMSHELBYNORTHEAST.COM

John Keller   
Team Shelby NE Director
Gt50040th

Andy Roth
Event Coordinator
Eagledriver

Tony Scalies
Event Coorinator
Tony356   

shelby001, on 07 May 2011 - 04:32 PM, said:

For this.........

What are they?
I just hit the plus on yours... Does that mean I like?

BlackShelby, on 15 February 2010 - 03:13 AM, said:

And your post is exactly what I expected....   The test is not BS because I certaily wouldn't waste 10 hours of my life producing BS results, I had many other things I could of done on January 26th to make 15+ Dyno Pulls on my own car.  Now in your world yes the test is BS because you think I am Bias towards KB or Whipple or whoever.  My loyalty lies with the truth of the results.  I am sure the test could be done differently and different results gained but in the timeframe I had and the individual and shop I used this is what I have produced.  I don't think its a negative for your Throttle Body one bit.  For it to even come close or near the same results as the other to units, I think speaks volumes of it design.  It obviously works very well on many cars and obviously from a drivibility standpoint it shines !    However I prefer the Twin 75mm on my Shelby as that is what came with the Kenne Bell kit and I like the way it drives and performs.  

From a pure business perspective you could use the thread to your advantage and come off with a much more postive note.  I will say right now that I still recommend the L&M TB quite a bit.  It definately has its place among the TB crowd.  But when you make negative posts that your only intent is to discredit my work and test I find it difficult to support you as a company owner which in turn hurts sales... so think about that or don't.   If anyone could careless about the results its me...  I paid for the Dyno out of my own pocket, I got no compensation from anyone.  You were both invited to the Dyno facility  I used , I do understand schedules and life so not being able to attend is understood but you were invited to observe.  

And if you want to boil it down to the "rubber meeting the road"   Why are the fastest GT500s on the planet not running a L&M TB ?  I do understand there are some Cobra Jets running them that is great..... I really can't answer the question ...  Can anyone ?  

Ted in Canada -  TVS 9.80s @ 140 upper pulley only ......monoblade last time I checked...
Andy S.  2008 KB car multiple 10.0s @ 141+
Evolution Performance......  KB and Whipple combos running 9s and even 8s on a KB race car with KB Throttle
Lethal Performance....... 4L Whipple Monoblade 9.60 @ 147  21lbs with Slicks and much left on the table...
Chris H.  9.60  @ 146    3.4 whipple monoblade 6 Speed Drag Radial....
Karls East Coast Speed .. Mid 9s KB Car ...... 6 Speed !

I am sure there are more and I am sure there are some very fast times with the L&M TBs that I just have not seen posted.  

My point being that I am not Bias towards one or other.....  Give me Break I tune both Evolutions Performance and Lethal Performance need I say more.........    

These are my results noone elses...... Take it or leave it.    Have a great day I am out of here.  

Jon L

All:

Every possible consideration was given to provide accurate data and repeatable tests.

These tests were performed by me, Jon Lund, on my own GT500 with a KB Stage 3, 3.25 Upper Pulley and 10% OD Lower and 1 7/8th’s Long Tube Headers on 104 Octane Unleaded Race Gas along with an HPX Sensor in the KB MAF Housing versus a Stock MAF with a MAFia on Position 3.  The car is set up to make 19 lbs. of boost.  Bare in mind that a car with long tubes will make less boost due to the free flowing nature of the exhaust versus a car with stock manifolds.

Here is a review of the data logs for Peak IAT1 and IAT2 Temperatures, HP, TQ, Boost and MAF counts.

The first pull was with the car configured as a KB Stage 3 with the aforementioned setup listed above.

Average of 3 KB Stage 3  Pulls to 6100 RPM , 20 degrees peak WOT Timing- 6100 RPM test - 5minute cool down between pulls

HP     TQ       Boost       MAF Count      Spark        IAT1         IAT2

Pull 1   677    620       17.9           768.2                20            81.8         112.3

Pull 2   671    612       17.7           763.2                20            80.6         113.1

Pull 3    664    610       17.6           765.2                20            81.0         113.8

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Average of 3 KB Stage 3-L&M TB Stock Intake Tube Pulls to 6100 RPM , 20 degrees peak WOT Timing - 6100 RPM test - 5 minute cool down between pulls

HP     TQ       Boost       MAF Count      Spark        IAT1        IAT2

Pull 1   665    614        17.3           757.3                20            73.3        115.3    

Pull 2   662    613        17.1           752.2                20            74.8        109.9                  

Pull 3   660    610        17.1           752.8                20            79.1        112.0

Note: The lower Boost vs. the Twin 75mm above, this is due to swapping from the Ford GT Tube to the Stock Intake.  Thus restricting Flow to the L&M.
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C&L  CAI  - MAFia 2   L&M Throttle Body

HP     TQ       Boost       MAF Count      Spark       IAT1         IAT2

Pull 1   676     603       18.3            910                  20             82.2       117.2     6400 RPM test
Pull 2   686     614       18.0            933                  22             100        115.2     6600 RPM test
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C&L  CAI  - MAFia 2   Whipple Mono blade Throttle Body

HP     TQ       Boost       MAF Count      Spark        IAT1         IAT2

Pull 1   698      629        18.6           928                  20           93.7         111.3     6400 RPM test
Pull 2   709      625        18.9           933                  22           97.7         110.6     6600 RPM test

Both C&L Intake tests were used due the restrictive nature of the stock Intake Tube.  C&L by design alone is less restrictive than the Stock Tube and that was proven with just the swap and seeing the Boost increase with the L&M Throttle at 6100.   Note the Boost Difference from the mono blade vs. the L&M comparing the Dyno Graphs and Data above.  The conclusion is that the throttle body is the restriction in this test when compared to the mono blade.
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Repeatability Test for the Kenne Bell Stage 3 and Kenne Bell Twin 75mm TB (End of day Repeatability Test)

HP     TQ       Boost       MAF Count      Spark        IAT1         IAT2

Pull 1   671     616       17.7            766                  20            78.0          110.7      6100 RPM test
Pull 2   701     613       19.0           774                  20            84.1          116.7      Same tune as Pull 1 & and the test above, 5 minute cool down & pull to 6600 RPM 30 HP gain by raising RPM sample 500.

Pull 3   705     616       18.9            778                  22            78.2          119.5      Same Tune added 2 degrees timing,  5 minute cooldown
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The only way to compare Load % and MAF counts is using the exact same scale and MAF curve and intake, as I did above with the C&L unit and inital KB Stage 3.

As you can see in the data  the lower MAF counts with a very high range HPX sensor -vs- the C&L with MAFia on 2 results in completely different MAF curves and different scales.  Boost being repeated the same.  

During testing we used 2 air fuel meters on all dyno pulls.  Subsequently A/F measurement was within 1% on every dyno pull with A/F being between 11.66 and 11.75.  We used oil temp monitoring thru the dipstick on a calibrated fluke, ECT, CHT, IAT1 and IAT2 logging to obtain repeatable results.  

The attached dyno sheet overlays are in .jpg format and the above peak averages.  All the Temps and MAF counts were at the Top of each Pull at the RPM sample of 6100, 6400 or 6600.  

Load Based dyno numbers are typically different than a non-loaded based Dynojet.  I used a MD 1100 for the above testing.  We specified load based on the Shelby weight and HP @ 50mph.  Doesn't really matter as all I was testing and logging was average peak HP number differences.  The car was strapped down and did not move for nearly 8 hours and nothing was changed in the tune except for additional 2 degrees of timing for the 6600 RPM pulls.

In closing, the L&M throttle body is a nice piece and a lot of attention to detail has been put into the design.  To date I have tuned at least 100 GT500’s or more with the L&M throttle body.  It does require minimal changes in the tune in order to operate and function properly.  For a lower boost car with a stock blower the L&M is a good throttle body alternative versus the stock throttle body from Ford.  On cars with lower boost an increase in horsepower of around 10 RWHP is the average.

With larger Twin Screw superchargers the peak power range is in the higher RPM band as the above testing clearly shows how boost increases and horsepower coincides with that boost.  Higher RPM twin screw supercharged vehicles will not make as much power with an L&M Throttle Body because of its small size and restrictive air flow in the higher RPM range.  It does not out flow a Whipple Mono Blade Throttle Body nor does it outflow a Kenne Bell Twin 75 MM Throttle Body.

Jon L.

Everything above and;

<sub>My wife and neighbors ask why I have a car cover on my car in the garage.

Every time I drive down a road where sprinklers have been running and the road is wet I panic and  look for a place to quickly get off that road.</sub>

I was at the Ford Dealer getting my 5k oil change with my two daughters.  When the service rep came to let me know it was done...I shouted out for my daughters.  Every guy in the lobby stopped and looked at me...one of them yelled at me " you must have the GT500, awesome ride."
My youngest daughter is named Carroll
My eldest is named Shelby

Awesome news ... hopefully we can do western Canada next !!!!

Me and a couple friends decided this is a good way to send a legend off... RIP carroll shelby

LEGENDARY ENTREPRENEUR CARROLL SHELBY PASSES AWAY



Team Shelby – May 11, 2012 – Carroll Shelby International, Inc., announced today that Carroll Hall Shelby, a man whose vision for performance transformed the automobile industry, has died at age 89.   Mr. Shelby passed away yesterday at Baylor Hospital in Dallas. The cause of death was not disclosed.

Born on Jan. 11, 1923, Carroll Shelby was one of America’s greatest success stories.  Championship-winning racecar driver, “flying sergeant” wartime pilot, philanthropist, entrepreneur, car manufacturer and racing team owner, he embodied the ingenuity, tenacity and grit to overcome any obstacle.  He is perhaps the only person to have worked at a visible level with all three major American automobile manufacturers.
Carroll Shelby founded Carroll Shelby International, a publicly held corporation involved in many industries.  His licensing arm has agreements with industry giants, such as Mattel, Sony, Ford Motor Company and Electronic Arts.  His car company, Shelby American, has a thriving parts business as well as a line of muscle cars including the Shelby GT500 Super Snake, Shelby GT350 and Shelby GTS.  The Las Vegas-based company also manufactures a limited number of the 1960s Shelby 289 “street,” 289 FIA, 427 S/C and Daytona Coupe Cobras.

Shelby considered his greatest achievement to be the establishment of the Carroll Shelby Foundation™.  Created in 1992 while Shelby was waiting for a heart transplant, the charity is dedicated to providing medical assistance for those in need, including children, educational opportunities for young people through automotive and other training programs and benefitting the Carroll Shelby Automotive Foundation.

Shelby remained active in the management of each of his companies and the Foundation until his death, even though he endured both heart and kidney transplants in the last two decades of his life.



“We are all deeply saddened, and feel a tremendous sense of loss for Carroll’s family, ourselves and the entire automotive industry,” said Joe Conway, president of Carroll Shelby International, Inc. and board member.  “There has been no one like Carroll Shelby and never will be.  However, we promised Carroll we would carry on, and he put the team, the products and the vision in place to do just that.”

Shelby is survived by his three children Patrick, Michael and Sharon, his sister Anne Shelby Ellison of Fort Worth and his wife Cleo.  Funeral plans are not currently available.  Donations to the Carroll Shelby Foundation are encouraged in lieu of flowers.  Information about the Carroll Shelby Foundation is available at www.carrollshelbyfoundation.org.

About Shelby American, Inc.
Founded by legend Carroll Shelby, Shelby American manufactures and markets performance vehicles and related products.  Now a subsidiary of Carroll Shelby International, Inc., the company manufactures authentic continuation Cobras, including the 427 S/C, 289 FIA and 289 street car component vehicles.  The company offers the GT350, GT500 Super Snake and GTS post-title packages for the current generation Ford Mustang.  For more information, visit www.shelbyamerican.com.

About Carroll Shelby Licensing
Automotive manufacturer and entrepreneur Carroll Shelby is one of the most famous and successful high performance visionaries in the world, and he has spent the last 50 years establishing and protecting his name, trademarks and car design rights.  He founded Carroll Shelby Licensing Inc., which has the exclusive right to license the Shelby trademarks and vehicle design rights for some of the most famous muscle cars and high-performance vehicles.  CSL also holds trademark rights for Shelby-branded apparel, accessories and collectibles. For more information about the company or licensing opportunities, call (310) 914-1843, or fax (310) 538-8189 or write to Carroll Shelby Licensing, Inc., 19021 S Figueroa St., Gardena, CA, 90248, or visit www.carrollshelby.com, www.shelbylicensing.com or www.carrollshelbyinternational.com.

About The Carroll Shelby Foundation
The Carroll Shelby Foundation was created by legendary racer and automotive manufacturer Carroll Shelby.  Headquartered in Gardena, Calif., the Foundation is dedicated to providing medical assistance for those in need, including children, educational opportunities for young people through automotive and other training programs and benefitting the Shelby Automotive Foundation.  For more information visit CarrollShelbyFoundation.org.  

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This release may contain forward-looking statements involving risks and uncertainties that may cause actual future events or results to differ materially and adversely from those described in the forward-looking statements. CSI disclaims any obligation to revise or update any forward- looking statement that may be made from time to time by or on its behalf.

I found this on youtube, he took a old Ford Commerical and add video of the newer GT500, i think its done well

COBRA SCOTTY, on 18 July 2011 - 06:18 AM, said:

You are correct about this.  We are changing to a "like this post" button rather than a +/- rating.  I think it might be prudent to turn the current system off until the change is made.