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[JeffIsHereToo]

08sgt1042, on Jul 16 2008, 12:42 PM, said:

thank you for the update. to many threads to read if we could get it down to a thread of update for gt scoop/stripe from sai.

We did try to have an "Official Hood Scoop" thread at one time but people kept creating new ones and we just gave in.  I suppose we could close all the old threads and only allow one closing new ones as they are created. But not sure how well that would go over either.

I keep hoping the fix is around the corner and it won't matter soon anyway!

But I understand your concern!

[JeffIsHereToo]

LuLu, on Jul 16 2008, 06:51 PM, said:

IMHO...I respectfully suggest it's time to add another forum.  Call it what you want, "Tech II-Warranty issues", what ever.  I don't care about that, but I think it's time to corral all these threads inside one corner here at TS where those affected by this issue can check in and share their stories, get updated on progress, rant, rave, what ever, and not disturb the TS membership NOT having any issues, or, choosing not to make their issues public.  I am one of those members.

Interesting idea!  I can see some benefit to that but policing it might be a pain. I already have to move a lot of misplaced topics and I don't look forward to adding another but I'm open to the suggestion.  Not sure how Sharon or Robert feel I can ask.

[JeffIsHereToo]

07SGT4578, on Jul 16 2008, 08:34 PM, said:

Why not just make this topic a sticky?

I did that for a few hours and found people didn't look at the sticky topics or at least it didn't seem that way.  I'm open to doing that again if you guys think it would help!

[1badsgt]

Yesterday I had a long talk with Mitchell from Ford Racing about the stripe and hood scoop issue. We talked about it for quite a long time and he was quite pleasent to talk to.  
According to him the stripe issue is caused because the replacement strips for the 07 are thicker because of an added layer of protection. This was done do to the problem of acid rain fading and eching the stripes. They just continued using the thicker strip on the 08. Since the strip is thicker it causes the wrickles as the hood and scoop expands and contracts. They are trying a couple of things and hope to have the stripe issue worked out in about 4 to 6 weeks. The hood scoop is another issue and they and Shelby are working on it. He expects that may take 6 to 9 months. They want to make sure that everything is right before offering it as the final solution. He said to make the claims thourgh your dealer and they will change it out as many times as it takes. He also said that they will make an anouncement on the forum when they get something that works. The last thing they want is another failed attempt.

[LuLu]

JeffIsHereToo, on Jul 16 2008, 09:31 PM, said:

I did that for a few hours and found people didn't look at the sticky topics or at least it didn't seem that way.  I'm open to doing that again if you guys think it would help!

Maybe that's telling you something?

[07SGT4578]

make it really stand out, people will see it!

[LuLu]

JeffIsHereToo, on Jul 18 2008, 03:56 PM, said:

Bump

I told ya so, I told ya so!

[JeffIsHereToo]

LuLu, on Jul 18 2008, 03:59 PM, said:

I told ya so, I told ya so!

LOL....ok I've pinned it!

[LuLu]

JeffIsHereToo, on Jul 18 2008, 09:25 PM, said:

LOL....ok I've pinned it!

Thank you, sir!

[ZepDad]

1badsgt, on Jul 17 2008, 12:26 PM, said:

According to him the stripe issue is caused because the replacement strips for the 07 are thicker because of an added layer of protection. This was done do to the problem of acid rain fading and eching the stripes. They just continued using the thicker strip on the 08. Since the stripe is thicker it causes the wrinkles as the hood and scoop expands and contracts.

Interesting information about the stripes.  Did he mean that the original SGT '07 stripes were thin and subject to staining?  Replacements are thicker and more durable?  I ask for a specific reason.  I've had my SGT #1296 one year and have gone through the following:

Hood scoop #1 - Severe bowing and gaps.  Normal for most of us.

Hood scoop #2 - The rivet fix on original stripes.  The stripes wrinkled and the rivets dug into the scoop, tearing paint.  Hood was bowed on driver side due to improper rivet installation.  The rivet problem was most dealer incompetency and inexperience with SGT's.

Hood scoop #3 - New hood stripes and scoop.  No wrinkles so far.  Minor paint tearing around several rivets and small gap in rear where rivet was apparently not installed correctly.  The bad news:  Hood stripe installation was botched with inconsistent gap between stripes.  I was very angry with the dealer (where's the quality control, why did you install the scoop over that garbage, etc) but they stand behind their stripe guy.  I'll give him the benefit of the doubt....once.   The good news: New hood stripes look great compared to old, stained, faded stripes.  The dealer says their stripe person "treats" the stripes before installing.  (I have no idea what the treatment is, but will try to find out.)   If nothing else the stripe comparison got me moving on requesting complete stripe replacement under warranty.  

COMING SOON - Hood scoop #4 and complete stripe replacement.  Dealer has parts on hand and is waiting for me to drop car off for another week.  The SWEAR they will get it right this time.       I'm sure I will be back when the final hood scoop fix is ready.  My best hope is that the new stripes are installed correctly and are of better quality.

I'm sure Ford/Shelby has at least $2,000 to $3,000 invested in cosmetics on my car (parts, labor, rental car).  Silly.  If I didn't love the car so much.....

Edited by ZepDad, 23 July 2008 - 06:16 PM.

[JeffIsHereToo]

For update see:

http://www.teamshelb...p...st&p=493447

[StrayShadow]

I got a new hood scoop yesterday from the dealership. We opened it expecting to see the same scoop
that is on the car now. To our suprise it is not the same scoop that is on the car now. It is a very rigid
fiberglass type material that does not flex like the old scoop. Only way of mounting the scoop is with
rivits that are included. There are no bolts like the old scoop. The guy who does all the stripes and
scoops for the dealership looked at it and said the only thing it needs is a gasket under it so it will not
grab and tear the stripes as it expands and vibrates. The part that will set on the hood is not very rough
but over time he said it would damage the stripes. Does Shelby offer a gasket for the underside of the
scoop? I am very pleased with the scoop! It is rigid enough that I don't see how it could warp.
I will take some pics of the scoop before install and post them, after install as well.


Kevin
07SGT2591

[ilmor]

StrayShadow, on Aug 12 2008, 11:49 PM, said:

I got a new hood scoop yesterday from the dealership. We opened it expecting to see the same scoop
that is on the car now. To our suprise it is not the same scoop that is on the car now. It is a very rigid
fiberglass type material that does not flex like the old scoop. Only way of mounting the scoop is with
rivits that are included. There are no bolts like the old scoop. The guy who does all the stripes and
scoops for the dealership looked at it and said the only thing it needs is a gasket under it so it will not
grab and tear the stripes as it expands and vibrates. The part that will set on the hood is not very rough
but over time he said it would damage the stripes. Does Shelby offer a gasket for the underside of the
scoop? I am very pleased with the scoop! It is rigid enough that I don't see how it could warp.
I will take some pics of the scoop before install and post them, after install as well.


Kevin
07SGT2591

How do you know that you got the latest and fully tested scoop?  Last I heard it was still under testing and was a week or two away from release ( this news came to us 10 days ago).  On 8/3/08, Bud stated the following:

"In the many threads we have said we are working on the new scoop. It will NOT BE A Chip Beck scoop, it WILL BE A Shelby scoop. Ever scoop we made HAS to be tested and crash tested to make sure it holds up to the safety standards. If it does not hold up, it does not go into production. The latest scoop we made so far has been passing ALL of the tests. And the latest test we did it did not sag, droop or even wrinkle the stripes. I am hoping we will be able to realse this scoop in the next week or two. And yes, it will also be held down by rivits. Now, the last test we did was to rivit it on and "bake" it out in the sun. This is when most of the issues occured. So far it looks great!!!! No problems at all. I do believe at this time we are having a few of them made so we can keep up with the demand. I hope this finally answers all questions about the hood scoop."

Edited by ilmor, 13 August 2008 - 03:59 AM.

[Budman340]

Hi all!!!!

  From what I have heard, a couple of the new scoops were sent out to now test the field. We are not going to announce the new scoop just yet. We are waiting to hear some feed back on the ones that were sent out. There is no gasket that goes on the bottom of the scoop. It does not need it. It will not tear the stripes. As long as the instructions are followed, there will be no problems. If the stripes tear, somebody did something wrong. The ones we tested here went under some pretty tough testing. I'm talking some extreme heat, many mutiple opening and closings and I believe that the persons car we tested it on (an employee) thought he was in a couple high speed pursuits (TY Jackie Gleason LOL) and the scoop did not budge, smudge, grudge and any other word that rhymes   . When I can, I will post a pic of the "weight" test. And no, it was not me standing on it--its strong, but not THAT strong  

  Folks, just hang in there, we are almost there!!!!!!!


Bud

[SGT/SC2873]

SAI-Bud, on Aug 13 2008, 08:34 AM, said:

Hi all!!!!

  From what I have heard, a couple of the new scoops were sent out to now test the field. We are not going to announce the new scoop just yet. We are waiting to hear some feed back on the ones that were sent out. There is no gasket that goes on the bottom of the scoop. It does not need it. It will not tear the stripes. As long as the instructions are followed, there will be no problems. If the stripes tear, somebody did something wrong. The ones we tested here went under some pretty tough testing. I'm talking some extreme heat, many mutiple opening and closings and I believe that the persons car we tested it on (an employee) thought he was in a couple high speed pursuits (TY Jackie Gleason LOL) and the scoop did not budge, smudge, grudge and any other word that rhymes   . When I can, I will post a pic of the "weight" test. And no, it was not me standing on it--its strong, but not THAT strong  

  Folks, just hang in there, we are almost there!!!!!!!


Bud

great news!  Thanks for update Bud.  

Craig

[FordRocks1]

SAI-Bud, on Aug 13 2008, 04:34 AM, said:

Hi all!!!!

  From what I have heard, a couple of the new scoops were sent out to now test the field. We are not going to announce the new scoop just yet. We are waiting to hear some feed back on the ones that were sent out. There is no gasket that goes on the bottom of the scoop. It does not need it. It will not tear the stripes. As long as the instructions are followed, there will be no problems. If the stripes tear, somebody did something wrong. The ones we tested here went under some pretty tough testing. I'm talking some extreme heat, many mutiple opening and closings and I believe that the persons car we tested it on (an employee) thought he was in a couple high speed pursuits (TY Jackie Gleason LOL) and the scoop did not budge, smudge, grudge and any other word that rhymes   . When I can, I will post a pic of the "weight" test. And no, it was not me standing on it--its strong, but not THAT strong  

  Folks, just hang in there, we are almost there!!!!!!!


Bud

[StrayShadow]

ilmor, on Aug 13 2008, 07:48 AM, said:

How do you know that you got the latest and fully tested scoop?  Last I heard it was still under testing and was a week or two away from release ( this news came to us 10 days ago).  On 8/3/08, Bud stated the following:

"In the many threads we have said we are working on the new scoop. It will NOT BE A Chip Beck scoop, it WILL BE A Shelby scoop. Ever scoop we made HAS to be tested and crash tested to make sure it holds up to the safety standards. If it does not hold up, it does not go into production. The latest scoop we made so far has been passing ALL of the tests. And the latest test we did it did not sag, droop or even wrinkle the stripes. I am hoping we will be able to realse this scoop in the next week or two. And yes, it will also be held down by rivits. Now, the last test we did was to rivit it on and "bake" it out in the sun. This is when most of the issues occured. So far it looks great!!!! No problems at all. I do believe at this time we are having a few of them made so we can keep up with the demand. I hope this finally answers all questions about the hood scoop."

I don't know if I have the new and improved hood scoop. I was just explaining what I received.
But it sounds like I may have received a test scoop from what Bud has said. I am just guessing!!!

Bud, I will tell the guy at the dealership what you said ... BE CAREFUL AND FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS!


Thanks,
Kevin
07SGT2591

[Shelby-Don]

SAI-Bud, on Aug 13 2008, 07:34 AM, said:

Hi all!!!!

  From what I have heard, a couple of the new scoops were sent out to now test the field. We are not going to announce the new scoop just yet. We are waiting to hear some feed back on the ones that were sent out. There is no gasket that goes on the bottom of the scoop. It does not need it. It will not tear the stripes. As long as the instructions are followed, there will be no problems. If the stripes tear, somebody did something wrong. The ones we tested here went under some pretty tough testing. I'm talking some extreme heat, many mutiple opening and closings and I believe that the persons car we tested it on (an employee) thought he was in a couple high speed pursuits (TY Jackie Gleason LOL) and the scoop did not budge, smudge, grudge and any other word that rhymes   . When I can, I will post a pic of the "weight" test. And no, it was not me standing on it--its strong, but not THAT strong  

  Folks, just hang in there, we are almost there!!!!!!!


Bud

Bud,

Is there a need for those of us with the original (thin) stripes to have them replaced with the newer thicker ones ? Will they be OK with this new scoop once it's officially released ?

Thanks, Don

[Budman340]

Shelby-Don, on Aug 13 2008, 10:24 AM, said:

Bud,

Is there a need for those of us with the original (thin) stripes to have them replaced with the newer thicker ones ? Will they be OK with this new scoop once it's officially released ?

Thanks, Don

   If the stripes are ok now, there will be no need to replace them. They will be just fine

Bud

[blueshawk]

SAI-Bud, on Aug 13 2008, 02:17 PM, said:

If the stripes are ok now, there will be no need to replace them. They will be just fine

Bud

Bud,

I have stripe wrinkles near two rivets on my current scoop.  Do you think it is best to have the stripes replaced with the new scoop or can they smooth them out when they install the scoop?