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#1 OFFLINE   Grabber

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 12:05 PM

Today I arrived at my dealership for my 8:30 appointment to have the new flywheel and clutch and pilot bearing installed on my car. Met with my senior master Tech and looked over everything. This is warranty work per the recent TSB that came out. I have the new 2nd generation Tranny with only 1000 miles on it, so I did not need the new input shaft and syncros. My new tranny is performing great still.

I was pleased to see that the nickel hub clutch is out on the market and included in the TSB. Attached File  GT500_Clutch_drag_TSB_08_16_04.pdf   50.67KB   473 downloads

The new flywheel is very different from the old nodular steel one. I have some pic's of it and the old one side by side. The new one has a much thicker section hub where the clutch pads grab. You can also see the steel is different. This new one will not warp. A lot of design effort went into this new one. Trust me on that.

New Flywheel:

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 12:06 PM

Old Flywheel with some heat check markings:

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 12:06 PM

Side by side - Old and new flywheels:

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 12:07 PM

The new nickle hub clutch and putting some Blue Teflon lube on the splines:

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 12:08 PM

Pulling my pilot bearing and installing a new one:

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 12:08 PM

wonder how much HP will be robbed :hysterical: get it..... Rob :hysterical2:
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Posted 08 August 2008 - 12:13 PM

My senior master tech with 13 years at this dealership did this job in 3 hours and 10 minutes.

BTW Bad Tony has some high res pic's that I will post too. He spent the morning with me at the dealership. His car goes in next week for the full TSB and My Master Tech will be doing it for him.

Edited by Grabber, 08 August 2008 - 11:00 PM.

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 12:21 PM

Did you already have your trans and clutch replaced? then with this new tsb they replaced the flywheel? The reason I ask is my car just came back today and they said thet checked for applicable tsb's and also checked the car and found nothing wrong. Car went in for airbag tsb, new panhard and roush wheel hop kit and oil change. I have already had the trans and clutch replaced last Nov.


See post #3 in this thread:

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 12:59 PM

Rob, I noticed the original flywheel is cast nodular iron. I'm wondering if the new one is forged steel which I think will conduct and dissipate heat better. Dunno if it is ...just was wondering if there's some way to tell. :shrug: Seems the old one has cooling vents which the new one apparently does not require -- that's what made me think of that.

All those new parts sure look mighty purdy! ;)

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 01:49 PM

What is the weight difference between the old and new flywheel InfoBoy? :waiting:

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 01:59 PM

It sure looks a lot different. So I guess at some point us early 07 guys need to go flog the car to get the new parts :o
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Posted 08 August 2008 - 03:00 PM

What is the weight difference between the old and new flywheel InfoBoy? :waiting:


Bill,

I don't know what the weight difference is, but it does weigh more.

There are 3 changes.

1.) As you can see by the back side of the flywheel it is in a cone shape. That gives it much more stiffness and prevents warping.

2.) The section hub on the front side of the flywheel where the clutch pads ride is thicker.

3.) The metal is not nodular Iron, so the heat dissappation is much better.

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 03:08 PM

This is the box that the trans kit comes in. It has the input shaft, syncros, and seals in it to rebuild the trannys.

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 03:10 PM

Inside that box there is a bunch of small boxes of syncros and seals and one other box that had something special in it:

Wanna see what is in this box?

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 03:13 PM

Inside that box is the new input shaft that is highly polished and the grooves in the splines are a tad wider to allow for a better clutch release. My tranny allready has this input shaft in it.

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 03:25 PM

Here's my old clutch.

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 05:58 PM

What is the weight difference between the old and new flywheel InfoBoy? :waiting:


I will get you the numbers, but I can tell you that the inertia base on the flywheel has not changed. Trust me!
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Posted 08 August 2008 - 05:59 PM

Here's a couple pic's of the tranny lowering down out of my car:

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 06:04 PM

I had my Tech check the top bolt on my FRPP shifter to make sure it was tight because SCGT500's came loose. He found that mine was not as tight as it should be, so he put some lock tite on it and torqued it to the correct spec.

That's Bad Tony in the pic.

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 06:08 PM

Here's the new flywheel bolted into position:

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 06:11 PM

My 2nd generation tranny got it's input shaft cleaned and lubed before it was mated back to the new clutch and motor. :happy feet:

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 06:14 PM

Then the tranny put back in. He makes it look like a cake walk. :hysterical:

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 06:18 PM

My Senior Master Tech then hooked the vacuum pump up to bleed the clutch. This took about 10 minutes, because we did it 6 times to make sure all the air was out.

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 06:20 PM

It was then time to put the shifter back on.

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 06:20 PM

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 06:22 PM

Just about time for the test drive.

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 06:26 PM

I did not know it, but 3 tech's, including my Senior Master Tech were about to play a big joke on me, that freaked me out. :censored:

Bad Tony was in on the joke and was taking pic's of me and I did not know it. :finger:

I was standing there watching my Tech getting ready to fire the car up.


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Posted 08 August 2008 - 06:28 PM

Then he fired it up, and I heard the rumble of my Corsa's.

.....and then a banging Knocking noise.

I could not believe what I was hearing. It was loud. :cry:

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#29 OFFLINE   aobrien

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 06:30 PM

Rob, the new parts look great, hopefully this fixes all the issues. Keep us posted on how it runs and if there is any differences in clutch or shifting feel.


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#30 OFFLINE   ff500

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 06:30 PM

I already have mine scheduled to go in after Labor Day.
2007 GT500

Red with satin silver
Frpp handling kit
Frpp 3.73 gears
Frpp shorty headers
Frpp short throw
Frpp svt black shifter knob & stick
Frpp cai
Frpp sgt mufflers
Frpp rear differential cover
Steeda shorty antenna
Steeda hood lift kit
Rear lower scoups
Roush adjustable panhard bar
Roush wheel hop reduction kit

New transmission and clutch
at 800 miles, tsb at 2200 miles.




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