296 replies to this topic

[Jody]

Grabber, on Nov 1 2008, 09:36 PM, said:

Did you look up through the slot on the bottom of your tranny to verify which flywheel you have ?

Yes Sir, I looked.  It has the slots.

[Grabber]

Jody, on Nov 1 2008, 07:42 PM, said:

Yes Sir, I looked. It has the slots.

Jody,

I'm sorry to hear that. Thanks for looking. It helps pin down the date for others.

We now have 2 members reporting out.

Build date: 7/22/08 - Old style flywheel  (nodular iron with slots)
Build date: 8/27/08 - New style flywheel   (non slotted thicker 3100 series steel)

Now we need some report outs between those 2 dates.

[easyjet]

Well, I just crawled under it.  Disclaimer: that is not much of a slot to look through.  Anyway, my build date was 9/5/08....I definitely see a slot-type opening on the flywheel surface....not just flat and shiny.

[easyjet]

I just looked back at your pics.  What I saw appeared to be more of a round hole than a slot shape.  Looking at pics of the old and new, is it possible I saw what appears to be one of the small round holes (not near center, but further out the flywheel) on the new flywheel?

[Grabber]

easyjet, on Nov 2 2008, 07:03 AM, said:

I just looked back at your pics. What I saw appeared to be more of a round hole than a slot shape. Looking at pics of the old and new, is it possible I saw what appears to be one of the small round holes (not near center, but further out the flywheel) on the new flywheel?

Your report out date does not jive with what has been previously reported.

The small marks that you see on the new flywheel are not drilled all the way through the flywheel. They were drilled partially into the steel to balance the flywheel.

I suggest you turn the ignition key to bump the flywheel forward and take another good look. Use a very strong flashlight.

Edited by Grabber, 02 November 2008 - 07:37 AM.

[cobraracing]

Grabber, you do a fantastic job on tracking all these items
What warranty is this covered under?
I have 9000 miles and 18 months on the car now

[easyjet]

Grabber, on Nov 2 2008, 08:36 AM, said:

Your report out date does not jive with what has been previously reported.

The small marks that you see on the new flywheel are not drilled all the way through the flywheel. They were drilled partially into the steel to balance the flywheel.

I suggest you turn the ignition key to bump the flywheel forward and take another good look. Use a very strong flashlight.

I will look again later this afternoon with a better flashlight.  Have to use the same old eyes though.

[Grabber]

cobraracing, on Nov 2 2008, 08:44 AM, said:

Grabber, you do a fantastic job on tracking all these items
What warranty is this covered under?
I have 9000 miles and 18 months on the car now

3/36 is what I have heard.

[easyjet]

Just confirmed with a stronger flashlight....mine is the new flywheel.  What I see besides just shiny metal is the little drilled areas you said were to balance it.  Again, my build date 9/5/08.

[Grabber]

easyjet, on Nov 2 2008, 12:59 PM, said:

Just confirmed with a stronger flashlight....mine is the new flywheel. What I see besides just shiny metal is the little drilled areas you said were to balance it. Again, my build date 9/5/08.

Thanks for the confirmation. That is what I thought you would find.

[cobraracing]

Thanks rob, Is there any way to confirm?

Grabber, on Nov 2 2008, 01:09 PM, said:

3/36 is what I have heard.

[Cobra GT]

The key to the warranty issue is what is stated in the TSB, "by the identified causal Part."  If Ford determins this to be fly wheel and/or clutch they will say 12,000 miles/12 months.  This is the battle I am fighting now.  The Ford dealer says the clutch is worn and it is not covered.  I got some information from Grabber and went back to Ford stating the rusty input shaft and hub size caused the warpage and clutch wear.  He is on the phone now with SVT getting the word from them.

I would suggest to take it as soon as possibe.  Ours has 21K miles on it and now the clutch slips as soon as you hit 3/4 psi of boost.  The clutch is completely worn out.  The minimum if it is not covered will be $3k from Ford.  I am getting pricing from Lamotta now.

Paul

[Grabber]

Cobra GT, on Nov 4 2008, 01:28 PM, said:

The key to the warranty issue is what is stated in the TSB, "by the identified causal Part." If Ford determins this to be fly wheel and/or clutch they will say 12,000 miles/12 months. This is the battle I am fighting now. The Ford dealer says the clutch is worn and it is not covered. I got some information from Grabber and went back to Ford stating the rusty input shaft and hub size caused the warpage and clutch wear. He is on the phone now with SVT getting the word from them.

I would suggest to take it as soon as possibe. Ours has 21K miles on it and now the clutch slips as soon as you hit 3/4 psi of boost. The clutch is completely worn out. The minimum if it is not covered will be $3k from Ford. I am getting pricing from Lamotta now.

Paul

So Paul...what did they say after they took you tranny out and inspected the clutch ?

[ChipBeck]

Grabber, on Nov 1 2008, 07:52 PM, said:

Build date: 7/22/08 - Old style flywheel  (nodular iron with slots)
Build date: 8/27/08 - New style flywheel   (non slotted thicker 3100 series steel)[/color]

Grabber,

The door sticker on my GT500 shows it was built 09/08 and the last #s of my VIN are 133357.  Is there any chance it has the old flywheel and both types were used to build engine/transmission assemblies for a period of time or would Ford use all assemblies with the old parts and then every car produced after that would have the new stuff?  Would it be a waste of my time to take my car in to get this checked?  My clutch chatters when hot and my car has 1000 miles on it.

Chip

[Grabber]

ChipBeck, on Nov 6 2008, 09:24 AM, said:

Grabber,

The door sticker on my GT500 shows it was built 09/08 and the last #s of my VIN are 133357. Is there any chance it has the old flywheel and both types were used to build engine/transmission assemblies for a period of time or would Ford use all assemblies with the old parts and then every car produced after that would have the new stuff? Would it be a waste of my time to take my car in to get this checked? My clutch chatters when hot and my car has 1000 miles on it.

Chip

Since we have narrowed down the window below I would not expect old flywheels to be going in after 8/27. If I were you, I would read the first couple posts in this thread and inspect your unit like I describe. That way you can be sure.
We now have 2 members reporting out.

Build date: 7/22/08 - Old style flywheel (nodular iron with slots)
Build date: 8/27/08 - New style flywheel (non slotted thicker 3100 series steel)

[Cobra GT]

Grabber, on Nov 6 2008, 07:20 AM, said:

So Paul...what did they say after they took you tranny out and inspected the clutch ?

Rob,

They did not say exactly what they saw.  When I was told they ordered the TSB parts, I asked if it was determined to be under the TSB.  There was a long pause.  Service rep stated it is diffucult to tell.....we decided to pick it up.

Not exactly sure what that means....but who cares.  I do know they were on the phone for a while with Ford/SVT about the determination of identifying the TSB.  I will ask once I see the bill and pick up the car.  If I had to guess they could not prove the clutch was not dragging.

I would say the arguments given to me by Mr. Grabber were strong and they could not counter!

Thanks Rob!

Paul

[Grabber]

Cobra GT, on Nov 6 2008, 10:28 AM, said:

Rob,

They did not say exactly what they saw. When I was told they ordered the TSB parts, I asked if it was determined to be under the TSB. There was a long pause. Service rep stated it is diffucult to tell.....we decided to pick it up.

Not exactly sure what that means....but who cares. I do know they were on the phone for a while with Ford/SVT about the determination of identifying the TSB. I will ask once I see the bill and pick up the car. If I had to guess they could not prove the clutch was not dragging.

I would say the arguments given to me by Mr. Grabber were strong and they could not counter!

Thanks Rob!

Paul

Paul,

I'm glad our talk helped. Now what was the outcome of this Repair ?

Rob

[jdscooby]

Just got done looking.  The sticker on the door says 8/08 for build but there is a date on the window sticker that says 7/31/08 on the bottom left middle, I am assuming that is the build date, correct me if I am wrong.

I have the old flywheel.  

Edited by jdscooby, 14 November 2008 - 02:11 PM.

[Grabber]

[cobra 07]

Grabber, on Nov 6 2008, 10:11 AM, said:

Since we have narrowed down the window below I would not expect old flywheels to be going in after 8/27. If I were you, I would read the first couple posts in this thread and inspect your unit like I describe. That way you can be sure.
We now have 2 members reporting out.

Build date: 7/22/08 - Old style flywheel (nodular iron with slots)
Build date: 8/27/08 - New style flywheel (non slotted thicker 3100 series steel)

Build date: 8/12/08 - Old style flywheel  s.n. 129368 - what a bummer