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#41 OFFLINE   skiph

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Posted 12 October 2009 - 07:05 PM

Grabber, you da man!
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Almost reads like if I could catch it at the very beginning of clutch problems, before it's effected the tranny at all, that a nice, safe, clutch and pressure plate replacement could nail it and it might never be back.

Gonna have to re-read this puppy lots and pay close attention to try to catch it at JUST the right time.

It's really the only concern I have on these. I mean it would be expensive for Ford, and now is not the best tiime, but seems if the there was a recall on the clutch and flywheel as an on-demand recall, that could end up breaking even in the long run, not to mention the postive PR for Ford it would generate. I would "think" replacing just the clutch and flywheel would have less chance of someone F-ing it up too.
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OK. I'll get off the soapbox now.

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Posted 12 October 2009 - 07:08 PM

 skiph, on Oct 12 2009, 08:05 PM, said:

Oh, have I mentioned I LOVE THIS CAR?! :happy feet:

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 09:51 PM

Rob, my local dealer said they would pull apart and look at mine, but could not guarrantee that I would not have to pay, anyone know of a local dealer in western PA or just over the boarder in OH, or W.VA that is more confident with this issue? This dealer said they did one but Ford would not pay since it was clutch issue only which is 12mo 12k mi. so customer payed. :banghead: I called Randy  Fry (thanks Randy) his dealership has done 5 already and said to tell them to start with the flywheel, I told them that and they said, if it has hot spots on it it is clutch and I would have to pay. I would take it to Randy, but he is 1400K mi away...
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Posted 16 October 2009 - 07:37 PM

 APPLESREDGT500, on Oct 15 2009, 10:51 PM, said:

Rob, my local dealer said they would pull apart and look at mine, but could not guarrantee that I would not have to pay, anyone know of a local dealer in western PA or just over the boarder in OH, or W.VA that is more confident with this issue? This dealer said they did one but Ford would not pay since it was clutch issue only which is 12mo 12k mi. so customer payed. :banghead: I called Randy Fry (thanks Randy) his dealership has done 5 already and said to tell them to start with the flywheel, I told them that and they said, if it has hot spots on it it is clutch and I would have to pay. I would take it to Randy, but he is 1400K mi away...

The old nodular iron flywheel does not dissapate heat very well at all. So it's going to have hot spots on it. That is why Ford changed the flywheel design ot a new one. It's made out of 4100 series steel and the section hub area is much thicker so it will not heat up and warp.
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Posted 17 October 2009 - 02:02 PM

I finally had my clutch replaced, after Bill told me at the 2008 Dearborn event that it was the worst he has heard
A few things i have noticed is a softer clutch feel, no grabbing, hissing is reduced and still shifts and holds as good as ever
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Posted 20 October 2009 - 08:33 AM

My Shelby is in the shop today. :cry:
Started clunking in 2nd and 3rd gear when cold.  :shift:
13,218 Kl m's on it.
They are doing TSB #091911B . :lurk:
SVT tech is assisting. He wanted the transmission guy to do the transmission work. I am told he is very experienced at transmissions.
I told them to take their time, no rush. I want it done correctly. :happy feet:
They had me drive it into their garage last night as the SVT tech (Tony) was not in.
The dealership only lets the SVT tech or the owner drive the Shelby's. Even the sales people are not allowed to drive the Shelbys. They really appreciate the power these cars have.
He told me when they finish they want me to test drive it with the technician.  :shift:

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 10:20 AM

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 06:51 PM

Ken,

When are you getting your car back?
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Posted 22 October 2009 - 09:32 AM

 Grabber, on Oct 21 2009, 10:51 PM, said:

Ken,

When are you getting your car back?
I am hoping for today. They have had it on the lift for two days now, going on three.
They said they were thoroughly inspecting the transmission.
I will post the results after I get my Shelby back.  :shift:

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 09:21 AM

I took mine to the dealer and they are doing the repairs with no hassle, after they took apart the tranny they found 2nd gear needed replaced also along with a another bearing...    cant wait to get it back

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 02:30 PM

I had my clutch/flywheel replaced on Tues and it's great. No argument from the dealer and they installed the KR shifter  Rained the past two days so I haven't driven it that much but it's much smoother...no chatter.  Fortunately, I did not have tranny issues when the latest TSB test was performed.  Glad there are some dealers willing to do the right thing.

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Posted 25 October 2009 - 06:34 AM

I've got my eye on a 2009 w/ 900 miles on it.  It's had the TSB and the dealer showed me the paperwork with the 3 part numbers.  I guess I would do the syncros test in the TSB to confirm the tranny is ok?  Dealer says the guy traded the gt500 in for a KR and they showed me that paperwork too.  And they offered to let me talk to the customer.  So it seems pretty good but I have these questions:

I know changing the clutch is straightforward on a lift, but what can I test to know they did it right?
Any other suggestions for testing besides the syncros in the tsb?

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 07:28 PM

finally got my car back from the dealer , it seems to drive so much different.  no more shutter, just takes right off.. pedal has much better feel to it also. 1st to 2nd shift is great ,,  just goes in gear , no more feeling of it not going in gear all the way     :happy feet:    :drool:

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 12:22 PM

Picked up my Alloy Shelby GT500 Convertible.
At first I thought the clutch pedal had too much play. Pedal went in a couple inches before making contact.
After driving it a few k's it seemed to adjust itself. The hiss is gone, no clunk in second gear.
I have attached the parts list showing Canadian list and dealer cost for the parts they used.



It is in storage now for the winter so I'll have to wait untill spring to further test. :cry:
I got absolutely zero hassle from the dealership. What a nice change from all the complaints I hear and read from other dealerships.

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 06:06 PM

 kstrong, on Nov 2 2009, 12:22 PM, said:

Picked up my Alloy Shelby GT500 Convertible.
At first I thought the clutch pedal had too much play. Pedal went in a couple inches before making contact.
After driving it a few k's it seemed to adjust itself. The hiss is gone, no clunk in second gear.
I have attached the parts list showing Canadian list and dealer cost for the parts they used.


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It is in storage now for the winter so I'll have to wait untill spring to further test. :cry:
I got absolutely zero hassle from the dealership. What a nice change from all the complaints I hear and read from other dealerships.

Ken,

I'm glad they took care of you. Next Spring you will be ready to ride. :shift: I got mine out yesterday for 100 miles of fun. :happy feet: I had not been in it for 3 weeks. We had a great sunny day here yesterday....but those days are now numbered. Mine will get put up very soon too! :cry:
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Posted 09 December 2009 - 05:19 PM

 chuckstang, on 21 September 2009 - 04:30 PM, said:

I am curious to know how long my original set up would have lasted.

I find it very odd that my car is much worse now after the TSB

Really makes me think its still not the clutch, but the dam retarded Ford techs

I appologize and dont mean to insult but how is it that many out there with the TSB done have no issues and then many people like me with many

experienced sudden total clutch failure @ 20k miles after hard launch in estill south carolina. have performance tune, borla after cat exhaust, and steeda cai on my 07 gt 500. local ford dealership replaced flywheel, clutch disc, and pressure plate under tsb without a moment's hesistation...      however, miss the old clutch. doesn't scratch as easily, soft engagement, not as crisp. hate to change out new clutch. has anyone had similar experience?

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 11:12 AM

im taking my GT500 in next week to see about getting this TSB done. i have met about 5 other GT500 owners that have had to have this done already all with 5k-10k miles and i have 8400 now.
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 11:45 AM

Still haven't gotten mine done. Drives fine and haven't noticed any issues with it. Trying to avoid having the dealer tear into it.  :angry22:
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 07:50 PM

Got major Clutch slippage, took her in Thursday. No question ask after they  drove it. My car is early 2007 #700 build in 2006

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Posted 17 December 2009 - 03:28 AM

 03 DSG Snake, on 11 December 2009 - 11:45 AM, said:

Still haven't gotten mine done. Drives fine and haven't noticed any issues with it. Trying to avoid having the dealer tear into it.  :angry22:

I'm in the same boat as you. Mines a May 08 build. I'm not taking a chance that the mechanics will create a problem when I don't have one to begin with. 10K miles and still feels like new. I'll hit the 5 years before the 50K miles and by then I should know where I stand. Worst case scenario, I'll work out a deal on a trade for a leftover 2011 (or 2012 or 2013). In the meanwhile, I'm not going to let it ruin the experience of owning this cool car.




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