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#301 OFFLINE   Secondo

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 08:59 AM

I would suspect that if Gary knew someone giving tours is saying that they would, well, er, no longer be giving tours.

+1 Tony, I hung out with Gary at Ponies In The Poconos event. He said my '07 GT500 was a sharp looking Shelby and even autographed it.

Edit: He and John K. (N.E. Director) also gave it the Top 20 Best Of Show award.

Edited by Secondo, 09 January 2017 - 09:03 AM.

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 09:23 AM

+1 Tony, I hung out with Gary at Ponies In The Poconos event. He said my '07 GT500 was a sharp looking Shelby and even autographed it.

Edit: He and John K. (N.E. Director) also gave it the Top 20 Best Of Show award.

There have been other instances of tour guides giving misleading information, and their scripts have been corrected.  However, once it's out, it's impossible to put the genie back in the bottle.  Especially if the misinformation supports something someone wants to believe. 


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#303 OFFLINE   Secondo

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 12:36 PM

There have been other instances of tour guides giving misleading information, and their scripts have been corrected.  However, once it's out, it's impossible to put the genie back in the bottle.  Especially if the misinformation supports something someone wants to believe. 

+1 what they want to believe. If they want to believe the '07 - '14 GT500's aren't Shelby's then the late '67s through '70 cars aren't either.

Edit: Or the current '16-up GT350's either, and they are featured in this year's Shelby annual magazine!

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 02:21 PM

So you were there, when I filmed SA's, direct reply to this exact question, during the shop tour Q+A session, one year ago?  You should've introduced yourselves...  Since you three, seem to know so much, perhaps, either of you, should be conducting the shop tour, at Shelby American, and be the one answering questions, on the record, instead of spinning your tires here, in this forum :lol:

 

They CLEARLY said the 2007-1014's are NOT Shelby's, and SA had NO input in the design.  Do you want to view the video I made?  2007+ GT500's are great SVT cars, but are NOT Shelbys.  Sorry to tell you.

 

The King of the Road versions, are true Shelby's.

Well I certainly would like to see the video so that if errors are being made they can be corrected. My email is stevent@shelby.com 

If you would email me just the portion of the video where I can hear the question along with the reply that would be great. If you're not able to crop or email the video you could upload it to YouTube and email the link.

 

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 06:43 PM

First of all, no CSM number on the GT500 chassis.  Secondly, not touched by any Shelby technician, nor having been inside Shelby American, also disqualifies these cars as "real" Shelbys. 

 

As far as "a quick YouTube search", a small promo tour/photo op in front of a camera, does not mean anything other than face value.  How many revisions, or engineering concerns could be addressed in a "two week visit"?

 

Thirdly, this person giving the tour was NOT a salesman, but a higher up person, Shop Manager???

 

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I will send you a transcript of the video.  Some are hinting this person could lose their job, or be reprimanded, and I'm not going to be the source of that.  A transcript is more appropriate here. 

 

What is SAI's opinion on the matter?  Surely there is some enormous distinction between a Shelby badged SVT car, versus a CSM badged car, that was actually touched by SAI.


Edited by ShelbyGT5HUN, 09 January 2017 - 06:47 PM.


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Posted 09 January 2017 - 06:53 PM

Wow. We've been on here for over 10 years and this has been discussed and settled for years now until another newbie like you comes along and thinks he knows better than Carroll himself. Unreal.

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 07:02 PM

Wow. We've been on here for over 10 years and this has been discussed and settled for years now until another newbie like you comes along and thinks he knows better than Carroll himself. Unreal.

Not a "real" Shelby, for the reasons I gave above.  Sorry to burst your 10 year bubble.



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Posted 09 January 2017 - 08:01 PM

Hmmm... glad to know after all these years I don't really own a Shelby. We only get a "real" Shelby if we pay another 35-40k for a special number huh? So what Carroll did with Ford doesn't matter one bit then.

So shelbygt5hun, what kind of "shelby" do you have?


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Posted 09 January 2017 - 08:30 PM

Wow. We've been on here for over 10 years and this has been discussed and settled for years now until another newbie like you comes along and thinks he knows better than Carroll himself. Unreal.

Doesn't this guy sound like a familiar troll? I'm betting he's been here and banned before. If you ignore him he will go away.

Edited by twobjshelbys, 09 January 2017 - 08:32 PM.

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 09:26 PM

Hmmm... glad to know after all these years I don't really own a Shelby. We only get a "real" Shelby if we pay another 35-40k for a special number huh? So what Carroll did with Ford doesn't matter one bit then.

So shelbygt5hun, what kind of "shelby" do you have?

 

 

 

I don't kid myself, nor have an over-inflated, ego or post count.   Maybe you should ask me what a "real" Shelby is, instead (hint: it's the inverse of the following paragraph)?

 

I own a SVT Mustang, built, designed, tested, and sold, by Ford Motor Cars, that was licensed by Ford, from Shelby Licensing, and badged as a GT500.  It was never touched, or specifically built by SAI.  It had almost NO input, unless you call a ceremonial test drive input, from Carroll beyond, "Just give the working man a 600hp engine, and keep it under $50,000."


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Posted 09 January 2017 - 09:53 PM

 
 
 
I don't kid myself, nor have an over-inflated, ego or post count.   Maybe you should ask me what a "real" Shelby is, instead (hint: it's the inverse of the following paragraph)?
 
I own a SVT Mustang, built, designed, tested, and sold, by Ford Motor Cars, that was licensed by Ford, from Shelby Licensing, and badged as a GT500.  It was never touched, or specifically built by SAI.  It had almost NO input, unless you call a ceremonial test drive input, from Carroll beyond, "Just give the working man a 600hp engine, and keep it under $50,000."

 
Wow ok. Not gonna argue about such a ridiculous topic that has been debated over and over.

Edited by 05mustangman, 10 January 2017 - 02:59 AM.



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Posted 10 January 2017 - 08:52 AM

 

 

 

I don't kid myself, nor have an over-inflated, ego or post count.   Maybe you should ask me what a "real" Shelby is, instead (hint: it's the inverse of the following paragraph)?

 

I own a SVT Mustang, built, designed, tested, and sold, by Ford Motor Cars, that was licensed by Ford, from Shelby Licensing, and badged as a GT500.  It was never touched, or specifically built by SAI.  It had almost NO input, unless you call a ceremonial test drive input, from Carroll beyond, "Just give the working man a 600hp engine, and keep it under $50,000."

 

 

Ridiculous!  :chairshot:


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 11:27 AM

 

 

Ridiculous!  :chairshot:

 

Yeah, maybe he will kick himself out of here!


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 12:35 PM

:lastyear:     and the year before that..... and the year before that.... as the Talking Heads would say... "Same as it ever was"


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Posted 17 January 2017 - 08:44 PM

 

Yeah, maybe he will kick himself out of here!

At least I currently, own a Shelby.  All you have, is a Ford :lol: :doh:


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Posted 17 January 2017 - 09:54 PM

At least I currently, own a Shelby.  All you have, is a Ford :lol: :doh:

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Please enlighten us as to what Shelby you own.  In your previous post you said you had an SVT Mustang badged as a GT500.  So do you own another Shelby or what?  If so, why all the hate on the Ford built Shelby GT500's?  All Mustangs roll off the same assembly line...




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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:06 AM

My '07 was built from the ground-up at the factory to be a Shelby by SVT and Carroll himself. Says so in my VIN! :yahoo:

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:35 AM

Someone doesn't think my 2012 Shelby GT500 is a true Shelby, okay.  Can't please all the people all the time.  I love my "Shelby GT500" proud to have one and to those that don't like it or appreciate the heritage...   Okay, I won't worry about you trying to take it & can live with that.


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