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[svttim]

Wick, this is not Michaels first Shelby Rodeo. If the buyers are happy with the communications comming out of SA, why the big deal? So Michaels happy with his choices and some would call him a cool aid drinker because hes happy with his choice? Do we really need the drama?

[mywickedshelby]

DubbsFaris, on 08 September 2010 - 05:51 AM, said:

Hey Michael,

Dont feel your loyalty is at all at question....I know you too well for that I think.  In fact, I didnt even notice you were involved in the thread.  You are pointing out the fact that the BOSS is going to take sales away from the GT350, and it will.  I dont think anyone can come close to questioning that.  That is a simple fact of economics.  People will spend 45-50k for a BOSS over 65k for a GT350, apples to apples.  I still think the GT350 looks a TON better though, even if it isn't as "track ready" as the BOSS appears to be by looks alone.  I still think the performance comparisons will shake out interesting though.  Im curious what the GT350 NA will turn in on times vs the BOSS LS on a track in like conditions.

My reference was to the guy I quoted, calling out Michael McGuirk, (whos initials btw are also MM, but yeah, Morris is still the first MM,) for being a PR guy, and I just thought it should be said we ALL should be a PR guy for Shelby.  You already are in your area.  I sure am in mine, and McGuirk is in his.

I will say this though- Owning a Shelby shouldn't be a prerequisite to being a Shelby enthusiast, as I have many friends who dont own a Shelby because they simply cannot afford it, but still ove them.  I appreciate all enthusiasts, owner or not.

I know of whole bunch of good PR to be done in a few weeks way out west!!

I started out responding to other posts and ended up adding in stuff from yours...........on top of my response being right after your post, I can see how it muddied the waters....

carry on..........

[mywickedshelby]

svttim, on 08 September 2010 - 06:24 AM, said:

Wick, this is not Michaels first Shelby Rodeo. If the buyers are happy with the communications comming out of SA, why the big deal? So Michaels happy with his choices and some would call him a cool aid drinker because hes happy with his choice? Do we really need the drama?

Tim.......my comments about the Boss are my opinion....an opinion shared by many I have spoken to.......

...if the truth in the words rubs some of those waiting for a GT350 the wrong way....

I suggest they call SA or Ford maybe.........but then again, why would they care what Ford is building?

and if everyone were so happy with their choices in light of recent developments,

they wouldnt care what car Ford was making now......it wouldnt be relevant, right?

Edited by mywickedshelby, 08 September 2010 - 06:37 AM.

[DubbsFaris]

You kidding? Im tickled pink!  Im getting both!

[Shelbyite]

DubbsFaris, on 08 September 2010 - 07:04 AM, said:

You kidding? Im tickled pink!  Im getting both!

In response to calling mgirk a pr guy for shelby, i stand by my earlier post. when people who have a gt350 on order post something about where there car is or why is it taking so long etc, he comes back with a the sun is shining in las vegas type of reply. ok the first time and by now the 100th time its tiresome. I know it must be awesome to get to drive amy boylins series 1 across the block at barrett jackson in orange county etc. Maybe a little respect to peoples intelligence wiould help. Its no secret that shelby is having issues with the gt350 program. Its no secret that they havent sold more then 150 gt 350 packages. I believe it will be a great car when they get delivered, but some of you guys have paid for or are making payments on a car thats been sitting in vegas since late april. that process didnt work for me and i wasnt going to pay for a car and then have a 15k deposit with no clear time table for delivery. I as well have spent thousands of dollors at the mecca of all things Shelby, Vegas. I am an advocate for shelby as well but not to the point of having blinders on.

[Shelbyite]

mywickedshelby, on 08 September 2010 - 06:35 AM, said:

Tim.......my comments about the Boss are my opinion....an opinion shared by many I have spoken to.......

...if the truth in the words rubs some of those waiting for a GT350 the wrong way....

I suggest they call SA or Ford maybe.........but then again, why would they care what Ford is building?

and if everyone were so happy with their choices in light of recent developments,

they wouldnt care what car Ford was making now......it wouldnt be relevant, right?

        I agree with wicked 100 percent

[Torch40]

Shelbyite, on 08 September 2010 - 07:52 AM, said:

In response to calling mgirk a pr guy for shelby, i stand by my earlier post. when people who have a gt350 on order post something about where there car is or why is it taking so long etc, he comes back with a the sun is shining in las vegas type of reply. ok the first time and by now the 100th time its tiresome. I know it must be awesome to get to drive amy boylins series 1 across the block at barrett jackson in orange county etc. Maybe a little respect to peoples intelligence wiould help. Its no secret that shelby is having issues with the gt350 program. Its no secret that they havent sold more then 150 gt 350 packages. I believe it will be a great car when they get delivered, but some of you guys have paid for or are making payments on a car thats been sitting in vegas since late april. that process didnt work for me and i wasnt going to pay for a car and then have a 15k deposit with no clear time table for delivery. I as well have spent thousands of dollors at the mecca of all things Shelby, Vegas. I am an advocate for shelby as well but not to the point of having blinders on.

What's "tiresome" is know it all posters who come on a GT350 thread and feel the need to criticize the guys that have a car on order.

[Shelbyite]

how is my post anyb different then whats been posted about the Boss? i am getting one with the LS package and seen the person in question criticize the car numerous times. Some how he knows production figures when NO ONE else does etc. I am not criticizing anyoone getting a GT350, I am criticizing when someone who has a car on order comes in with a less then happy post, the next post up is that the sun is shining in vegas and dont dispair etc.

[DubbsFaris]

If you aren't buying one, how can you have an opinion anything is wrong?  Let those of us who have put up the money make those determinations.  It's quite possible we are getting information that was asked not to share publicly.  We are getting updates and pictures emailed to us as buyers on a regular basis.  Also, keep in mind that supply issues and CARB delays aside, we are just now on day 100.  We were told 60-90 days at the start of June.  If we get delivery starting end of this month, I believe Shelby can say the delays were very minimal.  What's one extra month?

When I bought my Gt500, I had to drop a deposit on it to the dealer, and wait for allocation and build and it took 120 days from start to finish.  I don't see any worse scenario here.  Back then, seeing a GT500 on the road was rare, now you don't have to puta deposit down or pay an ADM, but you also have a car that is 1 of 40000.  We will have a car that is 1 of 2 or 300.

You can have your opinion on it.  Just don't knock us for having one as well.  Also, you may want to consider the fact that we are in a position of a customer in a restaurant.  A smart one doesn't bad mouth the cook before he gets his dinner served.

[Cali_KR]

mywickedshelby, on 08 September 2010 - 05:02 AM, said:

Michael,

Since this is your FIRST Shelby..........I say welcome to the club........but seriously, dont preach about all things wonderful...........it only illuminates your delusion.

Wishing you all the best with your new Shelby, Im sure it will make all your dreams come true........

  

FYI, this will be Michaels third Shelby as he has previously owned a 1965 GT350, and a 1968 GT500KR convertible (special order yellow car)

[Shelbyite]

DubbsFaris, on 08 September 2010 - 09:56 AM, said:

If you aren't buying one, how can you have an opinion anything is wrong?  Let those of us who have put up the money make those determinations.  It's quite possible we are getting information that was asked not to share publicly.  We are getting updates and pictures emailed to us as buyers on a regular basis.  Also, keep in mind that supply issues and CARB delays aside, we are just now on day 100.  We were told 60-90 days at the start of June.  If we get delivery starting end of this month, I believe Shelby can say the delays were very minimal.  What's one extra month?

When I bought my Gt500, I had to drop a deposit on it to the dealer, and wait for allocation and build and it took 120 days from start to finish.  I don't see any worse scenario here.  Back then, seeing a GT500 on the road was rare, now you don't have to puta deposit down or pay an ADM, but you also have a car that is 1 of 40000.  We will have a car that is 1 of 2 or 300.

You can have your opinion on it.  Just don't knock us for having one as well. Also, you may want to consider the fact that we are in a position of a customer in a restaurant.  A smart one doesn't bad mouth the cook before he gets his dinner served.

that sentence right there says it all. i understand why you guys are biting your tung based on your last sentence.

[dh777]

DubbsFaris, on 07 September 2010 - 01:31 PM, said:

I am HOPEFUL that I will see my car and sit in it by the end of this month.  Is that possible? Yes, I have been told.  Is it a for sure thing? No, no definite timeline has been set.  BUT, all looks to be coming together finally and just maybe we will be pleasantly surprised soon.

DubbsFaris, on 08 September 2010 - 05:22 AM, said:

Ultimately, I wanted my car for Mid-America, just like I REALLY REALLY wanted it for Terlingua and Granbury, and maybe, just maybe my wish will come true still with the latter, but if it doesn't, I just want a car that was not put together in haste, that doesnt have mismatched lines on body parts, that wont trip codes the first time I get on it out on the

I can see it now - it's somewhere between Sept 29 and October 8th. Warren gets a phone call and is running around in circles trying to figure out which way to go.

I've been in the waiting process before. I know how it is waiting week after week,wondering when do I go. This weekend, next weekend? I know it;s soon, but I just don't know when.

Good luck guys - I can't wait to see them

[mywickedshelby]

Cali_KR, on 08 September 2010 - 09:59 AM, said:

FYI, this will be Michaels third Shelby as he has previously owned a 1965 GT350, and a 1968 GT500KR convertible (special order yellow car)

Thanks for the clarification Tom, I was speaking in terms of Modern day Shelbys....as in one he had to wait to be built.......like this one.  

[mywickedshelby]

dh777, on 08 September 2010 - 10:12 AM, said:

I can see it now - it's somewhere between Sept 29 and October 8th. Warren gets a phone call and is running around in circles trying to figure out which way to go.

I've been in the waiting process before. I know how it is waiting week after week,wondering when do I go. This weekend, next weekend? I know it;s soon, but I just don't know when.

Good luck guys - I can't wait to see them!

+1

Edited by mywickedshelby, 08 September 2010 - 10:33 AM.

[mywickedshelby]

Cali_KR, on 08 September 2010 - 09:59 AM, said:

FYI, this will be Michaels third Shelby as he has previously owned a 1965 GT350, and a 1968 GT500KR convertible (special order yellow car)

Ok Tom, now you have gone and done it............since you threw it out there..........PLEASE TELL US......

Normal people I could understand, but why would a certified Shelby enthusiast ever sell a 65 GT350 or a 68 GT500KR?

Especially the 65, isnt that the Holy Grail of Shelbydom?

[Torch40]

Shelbyite, on 08 September 2010 - 09:09 AM, said:

how is my post anyb different then whats been posted about the Boss? i am getting one with the LS package and seen the person in question criticize the car numerous times. Some how he knows production figures when NO ONE else does etc. I am not criticizing anyoone getting a GT350, I am criticizing when someone who has a car on order comes in with a less then happy post, the next post up is that the sun is shining in vegas and dont dispair etc.

Never mind...

[DubbsFaris]

dh777, on 08 September 2010 - 10:12 AM, said:

I can see it now - it's somewhere between Sept 29 and October 8th. Warren gets a phone call and is running around in circles trying to figure out which way to go.

Bite your tongue, and dont jinx me DeWayne!!!!

But, don't think that scenario isn't already going through my mind.  Lets just say I have done all that I could do, and I know all is being done that can be done.  It sure might be good to get a couple sales of these cars and convert a few GM guys in Granbury....kinda wish there would be an M3 out there to spank!   

[sportscars]

Lets have less   and more   ok?

There seem to be a lot of dynamics at work here. Some are on the list are fine with the wait, some on the list are frustrated with the wait, some not on the list are frustrated with both of the previous people and EVERYONE is waiting for them to start being delivered.

I understand where some think McGuirk (and others) is drinking the Koolaid. I also understand those who are not bashing Shelby. McGuirk and some others have over time developed special relationships with not only the folks on this site, but with employees at Shelby. Some of us consider Shelby American important to US (for a variety of reasons). Some may have issue with that and is their right.

What it all boils down to is this: Some people on here are more passionate than others. Some see a car, some see a special car and some see history. There is no right or wrong here, only a difference of opinion. I happen to know both Wicked and McGuirk and I will bust their balls from time to time, but if I get out of line they will tell me and I'll apologize and at the end of the day we will be buying each other drinks in the bar.

We all need to let each other have our own opinions and we all need to feel free to post them as we each see fit as long as we dont "cross the line".

Can't we all just get along?

[DubbsFaris]

sportscars, on 08 September 2010 - 12:03 PM, said:

Can't we all just get along?

Oh :no: you didnt!

[svttim]

mywickedshelby, on 08 September 2010 - 06:35 AM, said:

Tim.......my comments about the Boss are my opinion....an opinion shared by many I have spoken to.......

...if the truth in the words rubs some of those waiting for a GT350 the wrong way....

I suggest they call SA or Ford maybe.........but then again, why would they care what Ford is building?

and if everyone were so happy with their choices in light of recent developments,

they wouldnt care what car Ford was making now......it wouldnt be relevant, right?

I did not address that but, in some ways, I agree with you. The Boss is a great car and, the Shelby is a great car. Both will be limited production and hard to get. That being said, if a person really wants the Shelby, the GT350 is the only choice. Look at the others out there. The Roush and Saleen. Check thier prices. Now compare those to the GT350. I think the GT350 is the best of the three. And, they all cost more than the Boss.