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[richstang]

Hi Everyone,

I was browsing this forum looking for some basic history / facts but I really didn't find many answers. Can anyone who is knowledgable about them write up a brief outline / timeline. My current understanding is the CS/6 was first only offered as a DIY package for the V6 Mustang. Later the CS/8 was offered for the V8 GT Mustang. At some point they were offered from Shelby as a built post title conversion instead of just a DIY kit or parts.

My curiosity started when I noticed there are different side stripes / logos on some of these cars.  I have seen a legend lime car with text "CS6-X" and the CS logo above it in the side stripe. I have seen many cars with the text "SHELBY" and the CS logo above it in the side stripes. Then more recently, I have seen some cars with the text "SHELBY" and a Cobra snake logo above it. Do these logos/ text help to identify the engine, package, or a Shelby built car? I hope this isn't a gritty question. I'm just looking to learn more about them.

[LL CS6]

richstang, on 29 December 2010 - 02:31 PM, said:

Hi Everyone,

I was browsing this forum looking for some basic history / facts but I really didn't find many answers. Can anyone who is knowledgable about them write up a brief outline / timeline. My current understanding is the CS/6 was first only offered as a DIY package for the V6 Mustang. Later the CS/8 was offered for the V8 GT Mustang. At some point they were offered from Shelby as a built post title conversion instead of just a DIY kit or parts.

My curiosity started when I noticed there are different side stripes / logos on some of these cars.  I have seen a legend lime car with text "CS6-X" and the CS logo above it in the side stripe. I have seen many cars with the text "SHELBY" and the CS logo above it in the side stripes. Then more recently, I have seen some cars with the text "SHELBY" and a Cobra snake logo above it. Do these logos/ text help to identify the engine, package, or a Shelby built car? I hope this isn't a gritty question. I'm just looking to learn more about them.

The CS6 was initialy to be the first CSM mustang from SAI but through (IMO) unfortunate circumstances, was sold as a "entusisiat kit" with no CSM#.

The concept CS6 sidestripe was silver and had a COBRA logo with supercharged under it and had SHELBY text down the side. The production model changed the Cobra logo to the CS logo. All Shelby CS6 sidestripes were only available in SILVER.

By the CS6 being an "Enthusiats Kit" and not having a CSM# you would have the freedom to deviate or modify from the original platform. There only a handful of CS6/CS8 around.

The Legend Lime CS is mine. I have a 90% stage 1 CS6. I did not get the razor wheels and have not purchased the Shelby brake kit (as of yet, 2k is pretty stout).I call my CS a CS6-X because I went with a different supercharger.My sidestripe is custom and reflects the difference between an original CS6. I have made many modifications that are custom designed by me to stand out from all other mustangs.

Don't know if this helps or not, I'm sure others will chime in.

[richstang]

LL CS6, on 29 December 2010 - 05:28 PM, said:

The CS6 was initialy to be the first CSM mustang from SAI but through (IMO) unfortunate circumstances, was sold as a "entusisiat kit" with no CSM#.

The concept CS6 sidestripe was silver and had a COBRA logo with supercharged under it and had SHELBY text down the side. The production model changed the Cobra logo to the CS logo. All Shelby CS6 sidestripes were only available in SILVER.

By the CS6 being an "Enthusiats Kit" and not having a CSM# you would have the freedom to deviate or modify from the original platform. There only a handful of CS6/CS8 around.

The Legend Lime CS is mine. I have a 90% stage 1 CS6. I did not get the razor wheels and have not purchased the Shelby brake kit (as of yet, 2k is pretty stout).I call my CS a CS6-X because I went with a different supercharger.My sidestripe is custom and reflects the difference between an original CS6. I have made many modifications that are custom designed by me to stand out from all other mustangs.

Don't know if this helps or not, I'm sure others will chime in.

Thanks "LL CS6" for your reply. It is a good start for the history. As you said, hopefully others will chime in.

I knew the early kits were not given CSM #'s but I was not sure about the Shelby built conversions or when they started the CS/8 version. Also, I didn't know they only offered silver stripes. I've have a picture of a yellow CS/6 with black stripes and black razors  Shelby yellow CS6 coupe a.jpg   141.15K   56 downloads and some other color stripes on CS cars as well. I assume this photo is of the concept car.  Shelby blue CS6 coupe e.jpg   28.07K   63 downloads. There is a medium silver car that also has the snake logo on it.  Shelby CS8 silver a.JPG   180.72K   46 downloads. Almost all the cars I have images of have the "CS" logo and "SHELBY" letters as you mentioned.

Your Legend Lime is very sharp. I understand the finances can be an issue when making upgrades. It doesn't matter as long as you enjoy your car. You can always add on to it later if and when your ready.

[Larry T]

richstang, on 29 December 2010 - 02:31 PM, said:

Hi Everyone,

I was browsing this forum looking for some basic history / facts but I really didn't find many answers. Can anyone who is knowledgable about them write up a brief outline / timeline. My current understanding is the CS/6 was first only offered as a DIY package for the V6 Mustang. Later the CS/8 was offered for the V8 GT Mustang. At some point they were offered from Shelby as a built post title conversion instead of just a DIY kit or parts.

My curiosity started when I noticed there are different side stripes / logos on some of these cars.  I have seen a legend lime car with text "CS6-X" and the CS logo above it in the side stripe. I have seen many cars with the text "SHELBY" and the CS logo above it in the side stripes. Then more recently, I have seen some cars with the text "SHELBY" and a Cobra snake logo above it. Do these logos/ text help to identify the engine, package, or a Shelby built car? I hope this isn't a gritty question. I'm just looking to learn more about them.

Heres a few links with some additional information, I also have a magazine featuring the CS6 also, hope it helps


http://www.muscularm...42shelbycs6.php

http://www.topspeed....s-6-ar6904.html

http://www.rsportsca...y-cs-6-mustang/

[UK PONY]

richstang, on 29 December 2010 - 06:22 PM, said:

Thanks "LL CS6" for your reply. It is a good start for the history. As you said, hopefully others will chime in.

I knew the early kits were not given CSM #'s but I was not sure about the Shelby built conversions or when they started the CS/8 version. Also, I didn't know they only offered silver stripes. I've have a picture of a yellow CS/6 with black stripes and black razors Shelby yellow CS6 coupe a.jpg and some other color stripes on CS cars as well. I assume this photo is of the concept car. Shelby blue CS6 coupe e.jpg. There is a medium silver car that also has the snake logo on it. Shelby CS8 silver a.JPG. Almost all the cars I have images of have the "CS" logo and "SHELBY" letters as you mentioned.

Your Legend Lime is very sharp. I understand the finances can be an issue when making upgrades. It doesn't matter as long as you enjoy your car. You can always add on to it later if and when your ready.

Slimer is a very nice vehicle indeed - I hope to see it up close and personal one day.

You have your history a little backwards though....the earliest CS cars were built by SAI and have CSM's (as far as I can tell they are mainly owned by SAI employees - when I was in Vegas the Prototype (the blue car in your images) was there along with the grey one you show (it was for sale, presumably by an SAI employee).  After SAI agreed to build the GT-H they did not have the time or inclination to continue the CS program in house so released it as a self build kit (Turn1, appearance only & Turn2, appearance and performance) or as individual pieces (the biggest peeve of mine as a lot of people that knock the CS's have CS parts on their cars - also the reason why genuine CS owners cannot get some parts for spares (the PIAA lights for example)).

As far as I know the stripes were available in black (for light coloured cars) and silver (for dark coloured cars).

The side stripe differences (snake vs CS) come down to prototype (or copies of) vs. production - I had read somewhere that the snake was deemed to be too big and was swapped for the CS logo.

The last data I had was that there are 16 registered CS6's and 9 registered CS8's (on the Shelby registry as completed builds).  The registry doesn't break this down to coupe vs. convertoble (easy to identify through the VIN) or Turn1 vs. Turn2 (again easy to do by cross checking receipts that are required to register).  I have started a CS6/8 owners group on facebook so if any others are reading this and have a registred CS let's fill the gaps left by the registry information.

Hope this helps a little.

Larry - do you have spare copies of those magazines or can you tell me publication/month & year information so I can try to get copies please?
Also I'm desperately wanting the CS6 info sheet from SAI at the time they were building them and any SEMA material on the CS6 - O want my baby to have as much history as possible .

[richstang]

Larry...Thanks for posting the links on the CS/6 packages. There's some great info there.

UK Pony....Thanks for the added info and corrected history. This clears up my question about the snake logo vs the CS logo cars.
I didn't realize the first car (and few others after) were built by SAI with CSM #s. Do you know if they were '05 or '06 models? I always thought these were only available as full kits or parts.
Were the CS/8 kits offered about a year later in '06 or '07?
15 registered cars is a low number. I have saved images of about 16 diferent CS cars not including the blue prototype. I'm guessing some of them are not the full kits which is what your tracking with your registry.

Here's a few pictures I've found on the web for a silver coupe that appears to have gray stripes.
 Shelby Silver CS6 a.jpg   59.23K   26 downloads  Shelby Silver CS6 b.jpg   36.77K   37 downloads  Shelby Silver CS6 c.jpg   54.69K   38 downloads  Shelby Silver CS6 d.jpg   59.27K   30 downloads

Anyone else care to add some more info please fell free to jump in here.

[UK PONY]

I took a closer look at the pic of the yellow coupe you posted - it doesn't have the CS6 front bumper and the stripes are black as opposed to charcoal (I stand corrected on my initial information - I did some digging and found it was charcoal metallic not black) so I doubt it's a completed car and therefore not on the registry.

The other two coupes appear to be complete builds.  It would be interesting to see the 16 images you have in one spot so we can have a photo registry .

[richstang]

UK PONY, on 30 December 2010 - 06:52 PM, said:

I took a closer look at the pic of the yellow coupe you posted - it doesn't have the CS6 front bumper and the stripes are black as opposed to charcoal (I stand corrected on my initial information - I did some digging and found it was charcoal metallic not black) so I doubt it's a completed car and therefore not on the registry.

The other two coupes appear to be complete builds.  It would be interesting to see the 16 images you have in one spot so we can have a photo registry .

I think many picutres are from this TS forum. I'd be glad to post them all as long as nobody would be offended if it was their car. With the 500k limit per post it may take a dozen posts to put all the pics I have up. I'll start with a full list and fill in photos as requested. It would be great if we could get a sticky for just pictures here.

1 Black coupe silver stripes silver or chrome razors parked in front of SAI HQ
2 Black Coupe silver stripes gray razors, 4 pics
3 Black Conv silver stripesgray razors, gt fog lights added to CS grill, 4 pics
4 Blue Conv silverstripes gray razors from TS 4 pics
5 Blue Coupe silver stripes Proto? with snake logo in silver side stripes, chrome razors, 6 pics
6 Blue Coupe silver stripes gray razors, hillbank logo on rear window, GT fender emblem, and 85th w/CS sig on door in large logo, 2 pics
7 Blue coupe silver stripes, gray razors, my 2 pics from Carlisle 09?
8 Medium silver Coupe, silver stripes, gray razors, custom headlights, cutsom rear spoiler,10 pics from ebay? 2 more from car show on web
9 Medium silver Coupe, silver stripes with snake logo, chrome razors 2 pics
10 Grabber orange coupe, silver stripes, 5 spoke CS wheel, 1 photo
11 Dark gray coupe, silver stripes, optional CS rims, 3 photo form Mustang World, 3 from Mustang Monthly- there were more on the MM site.
12 Legend Lime, black stripes LL6 CS larry car 1 photo
13 Red Conv, silver stripes optional CS rims, 2 photos
14 Red Conv, silver gray stripes, custon hood and rear spoiler, gray razors 3 pics
15 Red Coupe, silver stripes, gray razors, 1 pic
16 Redfire coupe, silver stripes, gray razors, TS member, 1 pic
17 Silver coupe, gray stripes, car posted above 10 pics
18 Silver coupe white stripes, 3 pics
19 White conv gold stripes over top only TS member 3 pics
20 Yellow coupe black stripes, 1 pic above

[Larry T]

UK PONY, on 30 December 2010 - 10:02 AM, said:

Slimer is a very nice vehicle indeed - I hope to see it up close and personal one day.

You have your history a little backwards though....the earliest CS cars were built by SAI and have CSM's (as far as I can tell they are mainly owned by SAI employees - when I was in Vegas the Prototype (the blue car in your images) was there along with the grey one you show (it was for sale, presumably by an SAI employee).  After SAI agreed to build the GT-H they did not have the time or inclination to continue the CS program in house so released it as a self build kit (Turn1, appearance only & Turn2, appearance and performance) or as individual pieces (the biggest peeve of mine as a lot of people that knock the CS's have CS parts on their cars - also the reason why genuine CS owners cannot get some parts for spares (the PIAA lights for example)).

As far as I know the stripes were available in black (for light coloured cars) and silver (for dark coloured cars).

The side stripe differences (snake vs CS) come down to prototype (or copies of) vs. production - I had read somewhere that the snake was deemed to be too big and was swapped for the CS logo.

The last data I had was that there are 16 registered CS6's and 9 registered CS8's (on the Shelby registry as completed builds).  The registry doesn't break this down to coupe vs. convertoble (easy to identify through the VIN) or Turn1 vs. Turn2 (again easy to do by cross checking receipts that are required to register).  I have started a CS6/8 owners group on facebook so if any others are reading this and have a registred CS let's fill the gaps left by the registry information.

Hope this helps a little.

Larry - do you have spare copies of those magazines or can you tell me publication/month & year information so I can try to get copies please?
Also I'm desperately wanting the CS6 info sheet from SAI at the time they were building them and any SEMA material on the CS6 - O want my baby to have as much history as possible .

The magazines you are looking for are

5,0 mustang and super fords --- Comparo of the GT-H and CS-6 featured on the cover
5.0 mustang and super fords --- CS8 featured on the cover


It appear that the kits are still available on the net

http://www.championm...ffer-p-981.html

http://www.championm...ffer-p-982.html


I would trade the 5.0 mustang and super fords --- CS8 featured on the cover, as I am looking for SAAC club magazine with the GT-H on the cover, I also have many others with GT500KR, GT500 Supersnake, Shelby GT for trade also if anyone is interested.


Hope this helps

Edited by Larry T, 31 December 2010 - 08:51 AM.

[UK PONY]

richstang, on 30 December 2010 - 08:11 PM, said:

I think many picutres are from this TS forum. I'd be glad to post them all as long as nobody would be offended if it was their car. With the 500k limit per post it may take a dozen posts to put all the pics I have up. I'll start with a full list and fill in photos as requested. It would be great if we could get a sticky for just pictures here.

1 Black coupe silver stripes silver or chrome razors parked in front of SAI HQ
2 Black Coupe silver stripes gray razors, 4 pics
3 Black Conv silver stripesgray razors, gt fog lights added to CS grill, 4 pics
4 Blue Conv silverstripes gray razors from TS 4 pics - My car, no problem with posting pics (Turn2)
5 Blue Coupe silver stripes Proto? with snake logo in silver side stripes, chrome razors, 6 pics
6 Blue Coupe silver stripes gray razors, hillbank logo on rear window, GT fender emblem, and 85th w/CS sig on door in large logo, 2 pics - Sounds like Jason's CS8 (Turn2)
7 Blue coupe silver stripes, gray razors, my 2 pics from Carlisle 09?
8 Medium silver Coupe, silver stripes, gray razors, custom headlights, cutsom rear spoiler,10 pics from ebay? 2 more from car show on web
9 Medium silver Coupe, silver stripes with snake logo, chrome razors 2 pics
10 Grabber orange coupe, silver stripes, 5 spoke CS wheel, 1 photo
11 Dark gray coupe, silver stripes, optional CS rims, 3 photo form Mustang World, 3 from Mustang Monthly- there were more on the MM site.
12 Legend Lime, black stripes LL6 CS larry car 1 photo - Sounds like Slimer (IIRC 90% Turn1 with an x-charger..sadly not a registered car)
13 Red Conv, silver stripes optional CS rims, 2 photos
14 Red Conv, silver gray stripes, custon hood and rear spoiler, gray razors 3 pics - be interesting to see this one. again it may not be an actual registered CS
15 Red Coupe, silver stripes, gray razors, 1 pic
16 Redfire coupe, silver stripes, gray razors, TS member, 1 pic - Sounds like Kevin's CS8, Turn1
17 Silver coupe, gray stripes, car posted above 10 pics
18 Silver coupe white stripes, 3 pics
19 White conv gold stripes over top only TS member 3 pics - Now has full charcoal stripe package, I doubt Randy will have any issues with you posting the pics. (Turn2)
20 Yellow coupe black stripes, 1 pic above - as before thinking this isn't a completed, registered CS, though I will happily stand corrected

Nice to see a list like that - I've commented on ones I recognise right away.

My 2 cents on posting the pics - if the owners really objected to pics of their cars being on-line they wouldn't have posted them on the web in the first place...I wouldn't worry about reposting them.

[UK PONY]

Larry T, on 31 December 2010 - 08:43 AM, said:

The magazines you are looking for are

5,0 mustang and super fords --- Comparo of the GT-H and CS-6 featured on the cover
5.0 mustang and super fords --- CS8 featured on the cover


It appear that the kits are still available on the net

http://www.championm...ffer-p-981.html

http://www.championm...ffer-p-982.html


I would trade the 5.0 mustang and super fords --- CS8 featured on the cover, as I am looking for SAAC club magazine with the GT-H on the cover, I also have many others with GT500KR, GT500 Supersnake, Shelby GT for trade also if anyone is interested.


Hope this helps

Larry, what's the date of that CS6/GT-H comparo edition?  I tried to find it on 5.0's website and it doesn't come up - I'd love to get my hands on a copy of that.

[richstang]

UK PONY, on 31 December 2010 - 09:31 AM, said:

Nice to see a list like that - I've commented on ones I recognise right away.

My 2 cents on posting the pics - if the owners really objected to pics of their cars being on-line they wouldn't have posted them on the web in the first place...I wouldn't worry about reposting them.

Alight then since I have alot of time this evening here's the first post with pics of the 2 black coupes and 1 black conv. Also let me know if the image names are identified incorrectly as a CS/6 or CS/8.

1  Shelby black CS6 coupe a.jpg   42.87K   38 downloads

2  Shelby black CS6 coupe b.jpg   29.8K   44 downloads    Shelby black CS6 coupe c.jpg   26.02K   35 downloads  Shelby black CS6 coupe d.jpg   17.77K   35 downloads  Shelby black CS6 coupe e.jpg   49.11K   46 downloads

3  Shelby black CS8 conv a.jpg   94.5K   56 downloads  Shelby black CS8 conv b.jpg   91.17K   54 downloads    Shelby black CS8 conv c.jpg   110.51K   37 downloads I belive this car was listed on ebay last year.

Edited by richstang, 31 December 2010 - 02:02 PM.

[richstang]

richstang, on 31 December 2010 - 02:01 PM, said:

Alight then since I have alot of time this evening here's the first post with pics of the 2 black coupes and 1 black conv. Also let me know if the image names are identified incorrectly as a CS/6 or CS/8.

1 Shelby black CS6 coupe a.jpg

2 Shelby black CS6 coupe b.jpg   Shelby black CS6 coupe c.jpg Shelby black CS6 coupe d.jpg Shelby black CS6 coupe e.jpg

3 Shelby black CS8 conv a.jpg Shelby black CS8 conv b.jpg   Shelby black CS8 conv c.jpg I belive this car was listed on ebay last year.

 Shelby black CS8 conv d.jpg   122.69K   22 downloads

your blue conv
4  Shelby blue CS6 conv a.jpg   84.36K   32 downloads    Shelby blue CS6 conv b.jpg   136.22K   27 downloads  Shelby blue CS6 conv c.jpg   80.81K   19 downloads

[richstang]

richstang, on 31 December 2010 - 02:07 PM, said:

Shelby black CS8 conv d.jpg

your blue conv
4 Shelby blue CS6 conv a.jpg   Shelby blue CS6 conv b.jpg Shelby blue CS6 conv c.jpg

I belive this is the first car (prototype?)
5  Shelby blue CS6 coupe e.jpg   28.07K   9 downloads  Shelby blue CS6 coupe c.jpg   127.32K   13 downloads  Shelby blue CS6 coupe d.jpg   162.55K   12 downloads  Shelby blue CS6 coupe b.jpg   150.21K   7 downloads

[richstang]

richstang, on 31 December 2010 - 02:14 PM, said:

I belive this is the first car (prototype?)
5 Shelby blue CS6 coupe e.jpg Shelby blue CS6 coupe c.jpg Shelby blue CS6 coupe d.jpg Shelby blue CS6 coupe b.jpg

5 more pics  Shelby blue CS6 coupe a.jpg   156.21K   13 downloads    Shelby blue CS6 coupe f.jpg   45.88K   14 downloads  Shelby blue CS6 coupe g.jpg   35.71K   10 downloads

[richstang]

richstang, on 31 December 2010 - 02:17 PM, said:

5 more pics Shelby blue CS6 coupe a.jpg   Shelby blue CS6 coupe f.jpg Shelby blue CS6 coupe g.jpg

6  Shelby blue CS6 coupe h.jpg   170.83K   24 downloads  Shelby blue CS6 coupe i.jpg   175.7K   19 downloads

[richstang]

richstang, on 31 December 2010 - 02:19 PM, said:

6 Shelby blue CS6 coupe h.jpg Shelby blue CS6 coupe i.jpg

7  Shelby blue CS6 coupe j.jpg   91.83K   19 downloads  Shelby blue CS6 coupe k.jpg   88.43K   24 downloads

this may be the same car as 7 or not?  Shelby blue CS6 coupe l.jpg   91.93K   23 downloads  Shelby blue CS6 coupe m.jpg   48.24K   16 downloads

[richstang]

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richstang, on 31 December 2010 - 02:23 PM, said:

7 Shelby blue CS6 coupe j.jpg Shelby blue CS6 coupe k.jpg

this may be the same car as 7 or not? Shelby blue CS6 coupe l.jpg Shelby blue CS6 coupe m.jpg

from ebay or web?
8  Shelby CS6 silver b.jpg   33.51K   24 downloads  Shelby CS6 silver c.jpg   35.99K   29 downloads  Shelby CS6 silver d.jpg   27.69K   27 downloads  Shelby CS6 silver e.jpg   33.1K   25 downloads  Shelby CS6 silver f.jpg   31.53K   30 downloads  Shelby CS6 silver g.jpg   55.83K   30 downloads  Shelby CS6 silver h.jpg   46.03K   30 downloads  Shelby CS6 silver i.jpg   42.39K   25 downloads  Shelby CS6 silver j.jpg   30.69K   24 downloads  Shelby CS6 silver k.jpg   29.36K   21 downloads

Edited by richstang, 31 December 2010 - 02:45 PM.

[SHELBYCS6]

UK PONY, on 30 December 2010 - 06:52 PM, said:

I took a closer look at the pic of the yellow coupe you posted - it doesn't have the CS6 front bumper and the stripes are black as opposed to charcoal (I stand corrected on my initial information - I did some digging and found it was charcoal metallic not black) so I doubt it's a completed car and therefore not on the registry.

The other two coupes appear to be complete builds.  It would be interesting to see the 16 images you have in one spot so we can have a photo registry .

The only two stripe colours offered were silver for dark cars and charcoal for light cars.
If any other colours were produced they are aftermarket and not from SAI.
The other question that was asked regarding the Tiffany Snake as opposed to  the CS side logo.
From what I understand there was an issue using the Snake as Ford owns the rights to it and not SAI.
If the car would have moved forward as a part of the Ford stable, the snake probably would have stayed.

[SHELBYCS6]

richstang, on 30 December 2010 - 05:47 PM, said:

Larry...Thanks for posting the links on the CS/6 packages. There's some great info there.

UK Pony....Thanks for the added info and corrected history. This clears up my question about the snake logo vs the CS logo cars.
I didn't realize the first car (and few others after) were built by SAI with CSM #s. Do you know if they were '05 or '06 models? I always thought these were only available as full kits or parts.
Were the CS/8 kits offered about a year later in '06 or '07?
15 registered cars is a low number. I have saved images of about 16 diferent CS cars not including the blue prototype. I'm guessing some of them are not the full kits which is what your tracking with your registry.

Here's a few pictures I've found on the web for a silver coupe that appears to have gray stripes.
Shelby Silver CS6 a.jpg Shelby Silver CS6 b.jpg Shelby Silver CS6 c.jpg Shelby Silver CS6 d.jpg

Anyone else care to add some more info please fell free to jump in here.

The original prototype was a 2006 V6 coupe that was shown at Sema 2005