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#21 OFFLINE   knightowl

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 06:11 PM

So just looking for a guideline too for pricing!

I see whether people have bought in Canada or U.S., there is the MSRP price, then the actual list or cost price. What would everyone consider a good deal for the Shelby GT 500, such as so much above or below MSRP / list? I know since the car is quite in demand and special to say the least, there is little room for movement, but I'm curious to see what the norm has been when trying to wheel & deal with the dealerships?

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 07:05 AM

View Postknightowl, on 29 March 2011 - 06:11 PM, said:

So just looking for a guideline too for pricing!

I see whether people have bought in Canada or U.S., there is the MSRP price, then the actual list or cost price. What would everyone consider a good deal for the Shelby GT 500, such as so much above or below MSRP / list? I know since the car is quite in demand and special to say the least, there is little room for movement, but I'm curious to see what the norm has been when trying to wheel & deal with the dealerships?


How many of you bought in Canada? I take it most of you went to the U.S?

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 02:17 PM

View Postknightowl, on 29 March 2011 - 06:11 PM, said:

So just looking for a guideline too for pricing!

I see whether people have bought in Canada or U.S., there is the MSRP price, then the actual list or cost price. What would everyone consider a good deal for the Shelby GT 500, such as so much above or below MSRP / list? I know since the car is quite in demand and special to say the least, there is little room for movement, but I'm curious to see what the norm has been when trying to wheel & deal with the dealerships?

Personally I paid just over $3000 less than MSRP, but this is probably a little more exception than the rule, I've talked to many that have paid around MSRP or $1500 or so less but then some have paid $5000 or more over (more when they first rolled out). If you decide on something particular you may want to order direct from a dealer, a lot advertise to order for just under MSRP, that said the best deals I've seen come from ones dealers have had for a while. Example My link

The way the dollar has been lately I've been contemplating another trip south too.
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 08:19 PM

View Postknightowl, on 09 April 2011 - 07:05 AM, said:

How many of you bought in Canada? I take it most of you went to the U.S?
3 Shelby's bought.

1 from North Carolina
1 from Colorado
1 from Oklahoma

I have tried to find good cars here at home in motherland Canada but after 10 years of looking, I have come to the conclusion you have to head south of the border to find good stuff at a reasonable price.  I sometimes feel a little bad that that I don't support the local economy but the reality is, if you want the best stuff for the best price, head south.

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 06:19 AM

View PostJason1320, on 14 April 2011 - 02:17 PM, said:

Personally I paid just over $3000 less than MSRP, but this is probably a little more exception than the rule, I've talked to many that have paid around MSRP or $1500 or so less but then some have paid $5000 or more over (more when they first rolled out). If you decide on something particular you may want to order direct from a dealer, a lot advertise to order for just under MSRP, that said the best deals I've seen come from ones dealers have had for a while. Example My link

The way the dollar has been lately I've been contemplating another trip south too.


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Thanks for the info! Exactly what I was looking for so I could at least have an idea before I delve into things....Holding off is getting a lot harder though after looking at so many cars online and reading everyone's comments.....Soon, very soon I hope!!!!

Like you said with our dollar though, makes sense to head south. Thanks for the link too!

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 06:24 AM

View PostQuickSilverShelby, on 14 April 2011 - 08:19 PM, said:

3 Shelby's bought.

1 from North Carolina
1 from Colorado
1 from Oklahoma

I have tried to find good cars here at home in motherland Canada but after 10 years of looking, I have come to the conclusion you have to head south of the border to find good stuff at a reasonable price.  I sometimes feel a little bad that that I don't support the local economy but the reality is, if you want the best stuff for the best price, head south.

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Hey QSS;

You've done this a few times so you've seen for yourself the value of going south of the border. I'm like you and would love to support our local economy, but when there's such a drastic difference, how can anyone not go south?

Thanks for your insight; it helps a lot.

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 08:59 PM

Aside from what the SVTPP has to offer with the suspension tuning, wheel & tire size, 3.73 diff, etc, has anyone compared driving with and without SVTPP? It seems that it's probably worth it, but wondering if anyone thinks otherwise?

I think I've found all the information that I've been looking for after looking at lots of different threads. Thx all for your help.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 12:23 PM

Hi everyone, I am new to the site and am planning on purchasing a 2011 GT500 with SVT track package within the next month. I have been reading the posts on this thread and it seems many of you do not have any problems with warranty if purching the vehicle from the US. Heres my question and a little background about myself. I am a licensed technician for Audi in Markham, ON for about 8 months and before that I was at Honda for 5 years.

At Honda, we declined all warranty on cars from the US as per Honda Canada. Here at Audi, we had provided warranty on US vehicles without any questions up untill January of this year. Any warranty issues now have to be decided by Audi Canada and for the most part, the answer is no depending on the problem.

I had inquired about warranty on US vehicles at the Ford dealership thats close to my dealer hoping that them seeing me in my Audi uniform would get me a straight answer and they still said that they do not honour US warranty. Would I have to contact Ford Canada and have them email me a letter to show the service manager everytime I have an warranty related issue? The MSRP price tag on ford.com and ford.ca is about $11,000 which makes it very tempting to save and purchase from Buffalo where its only a 2 hour drive away. Anyone know what the dealer cost on the 2011 GT500 is for the Canadian dealers?

Thanks for reading and any comments would be greatly appreciated.

p.s. Im 26 and Chinese :D im sure ill be getting a lot of confused looks on the road

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 12:30 PM

One more thing, the reason why im purchasing a new car is that I was rear ended at a redlight by someone who wasnt paying attention. After 8 years of being insured with StateFarm and having a clean record (no tickets or at fault accidents) they have decided to cancel my policy for my Honda Civic because it was modified. Gotta love insurance companies eh? Plus my clean record was still costing me $205 per month with only 3rd party liablity. Full coverage would have been $256 per month for the Civic. Now heres the funny part. Full coverage for the GT500 will cost me $245 per month? So a 2003 Civic worth $7000 stock is more expensive to insure than a brand new $60,000 Shelby...

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 02:38 PM

A wholesale price for a  GT500 which includes SVTPP,Nav would be $59,119 and the wholesale price for a base GT500 would be $55,419  look around theres still a few 11's around and the dealers want them off the lots a.s.a.p     Insurance here in Ontario is a joke they wanted the same $$$$$ for a Honda Fit as for my GT500 :headscratch:  what kill me the charge more depending on where you live???? If i was to move just 5 min North to Caledon i would pay way less :censored:
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Posted 11 June 2011 - 04:03 PM

I agree with you. Insurance is a rip off here in Ontario especially in the Greater Toronto Area. Just changing your address to Hamilton makes a big difference. I have seen a couple on autotrader from dealers around the GTA asking $52K for the base and an extra 2K for the navi option. Any idea what the US cost price would be?

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 05:38 AM

I have no idea what the wholesale price is in the States are, i chose to buy here in Canada cuz i needed to finance and plus i didnt wanted to deal with warranty issues if any, just wanted to make sure if i had any problems that it would be covered, i wasnt sure if i bought a car in the States that the warranty would be covered, so for my piece of mind i bought locally
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Posted 12 June 2011 - 02:28 PM

Ya the warranty is the main issue that concerns me as I dont feel like driving to Buffalo everytime I need a recall performed

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 06:55 AM

Just imported my first car from the USA this week,a 2007 Shelby GT. The process was easy make sure it's on the admissible RIV list and has no major mods.
Day time lights are easy to turn on but the dealer has to call ford for the code, ford requires the import number before they give the code.
The cost are:  GST : $220 for a Federal inspection which you need to get before registering the car pay for it at the border if not you have to send transport Canada the money and wait for FORM 2 to be sent to you.
Pay at the border and you can download it from the net. When you register the car you pay PST.
Here is what you need to license the car:

1: Title to vehicle send original to USA Customs 72 hours ahead
2: Bill of sale  send original to USA Customs 72 hours ahead
3:Form 1 from Canada customs
4:Form 2 download on line (if you pay the fee at the boarder)
5:Federal inspection done (form 2 done at Canadian tire)
6:provincial safety
7:E-test

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 03:39 PM

So only PST and not HST?

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 04:50 PM

View PostTransformer Guy, on 13 June 2011 - 03:39 PM, said:

So only PST and not HST?

They separate it at the boarder GST to customs PST when you license it.

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 06:06 PM

I'm still looking hard in the U.S. and still have some feelers out here locally in case I come across a great deal.

The general consensus chatting with many that have done the U.S. purchase, Ford readily honours the warranty in Canada too, but check with Ford Canada before taking the final plunge to make sure they haven't changed their position on that.  It seems that warranty varies quite a bit from one manufacturer to another, but thankfully Ford is one of the easy ones to deal with.

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Posted 24 June 2011 - 09:51 AM

Bought a Shelby...Can't believe it!!!!!!!

Well, after all my blabbing of promising to buy in the U.S., I ended up buying locally today.  It was pretty hard to pass up as Ford had their employee pricing promo on various vehicles including the Shelby which I'm told rarely happens!

It turns out, they brought several in from Ontario that arrived today and what a selection.  They all looked hot including the white with grabber blue stripes, red w/ black stripes, Kona Blue w/ white stripes & the one I went with was the stealth look I've had my eye on since the get go, the black w/ matte black stripes.  All are 2011, but no SVTPP or Nav, but the wide stripes are great and it has the Shaker 1000 in it.  I liked the look of the Nav, but in the end I'm really pumped about my new car!

I'm pretty sure I did ok on it....Sticker was almost 62K and with the employee pricing, it was 55800 or so.  I got them to 54500 and got a Shelby cover thrown in too.  Tries that price GST in, but jut got a bit of the reduction instead.

Damn, what a feeling...Pick it up next week & will post pics everyone.

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Posted 25 June 2011 - 07:55 PM

Almost forgot; thanks for everyone's help and insights on my post.  Everyone's opinion & input was so helpful.

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 06:24 AM

I know here in Ontario any u.s vehicle has to go to Canadian tire for inspection  prior to you licensing it to make sure it meets our CSA standards. That means it will need the daytime running light module installed...etc.

You will need your form 2 from RIV to take with you. When Canadian Tire signs off on it you will need to submit the forms back to RIV and they will send out a RIV sticker which you must place somewhere on your car...usually on the inside of the drivers door or door post. Do not take your vehicle back across the border until you have received that sticker and placed it on the car.

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