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#1 OFFLINE   tdreed1265

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 10:52 PM

New TSB: http://www.mustangbl...-newer-mustangs

Is this applicable to the GT500's? Doesn't seem like this would be a "fix" for what's been talked about in depth on the forum, but maybe a step in the right direction on that there is a problem?

Personally I have only had about 4 occurrences in 4600 miles of which I attribute to my error.
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Posted 31 March 2011 - 11:06 PM

Changng the fluid is the answer to the 1-2 grind. NOT.
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#3 OFFLINE   JWG223

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 12:53 AM

There are two schools of thought on this one.

I agree (with more seat time needed).

Before buying my GT500 I heard of the missed 2-3 shifts too. All from shifter manufactures!

I have had NO problem hitting 3rd on a speed shift with my OE shifter. I just added a MGW but have yet to drive the car (mods still in progress) so I can not comment on it.

I have also had NO problem with my 1-2 shifts. Regardless of how hard or easy I shift, WOT or not and I've done 'em all. The ONLY time I ground a gear is one time when I tried a clutchless power shift from 1 to 2 with just a throttle lift...MY BAD (it didn't work)!

Frankly, I think the 1-2 shift problem is WAY overblown. A small but vocal group of car owners is having a problem but in the big picture, the ratio of problem cars vs. problematic cars is very small.

*I* completely understand why Ford hasn't issued a TSB at this point in time.


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Edited by JWG223, 01 April 2011 - 01:04 AM.


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Posted 01 April 2011 - 06:15 AM

New TSB: http://www.mustangbl...-newer-mustangs

Is this applicable to the GT500's? Doesn't seem like this would be a "fix" for what's been talked about in depth on the forum, but maybe a step in the right direction on that there is a problem?

Personally I have only had about 4 occurrences in 4600 miles of which I attribute to my error.


This is not for the GT500's.

This is for the 2011 - 2012 GT that has a MT82 6-speed manual transmission.
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Posted 01 April 2011 - 06:20 AM

Here's what they are doing:



SERVICE PROCEDURE
TSB
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Replace the Motorcraft®Full Synthetic Manual Transmission Fluid with 2.6L (2.7 qt) of Motorcraft® Dual Clutch Transmission Fluid. Refer to Workshop Manual, Section 308-03A for the transmission fluid draining and filling procedure.

This fluid is suitable for use in all ambient temperatures and seasons, and the Scheduled Maintenance guidelines in the Owner Guide can continue to be followed.

The use of friction modifiers or other fluid additives is not recommended since although they may provide some immediate improvement in cold shift effort, they are likely to result in long term degradation of the synchronizers.

PART NUMBER PART NAME XT-11-QDC Dual Clutch Fluid

Edited by Grabber, 01 April 2011 - 06:20 AM.

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Posted Image 2007 GRABBER ORANGE GT500 Coupe ordered 10/13/06. Sub to plant 12/14/06. Scheduled 1/16/07. Bucked 1/17/07. Released From Plant 1/19/07. Plant Quality Hold 1/19/07. Off Plant Quality Hold 2/21/07. Shipped 2/22/07. Delivered 3/8/07. New 2008 2nd Gen. Tranny & Nickle Hub Clutch & Flywheel & Lube & CSC bearing 1/16/2008. New 2009 2nd Gen. Flywheel & another new Nickel Hub Clutch & Pilot Bearing 8/8/08. New 2010 Clutch and flywheel and slave cylinder & pilot bearing and clutch line 8/2/12
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#6 OFFLINE   Grabber

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 06:21 AM

.....and this is the issue:


ISSUE:
Some 2011-2012 Mustang vehicles equipped with a MT82 6-speed manual transmission may exhibit increased shift efforts in cold ambient temperatures. This is usually most noticeable in 1st and 2nd gears but may also be noticed in 3rd through 6th gears. The increased shift effort may be the result of the increased viscosity of the transmission fluid in cold weather.


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#7 OFFLINE   tdreed1265

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 06:28 AM

This is not for the GT500's.

This is for the 2011 - 2012 GT that has a MT82 6-speed manual transmission.


OK, thanks fo the technical clarification Grabber.
My Stangs (past & present)

1977 Mustang Ghia - White. My first Mustang. The 302 was anemic, but it was the only Mustang I could afford at the time. I still have a soft spot for Mustang II's. Owned from October 1981 to September 1984.

1985 GT Convertible - Black/White Top, 5 speed. I bought this brand new and it's still in my stable. All stock except for Flowmasters, brand new 3 core radiator, and new Black Convertible Top. Owned from August 1985 to present

2006 GT - Redfire Metallic. Premium, 18 inch rims, Shaker 500, 5 speed. 300 HP of fun, but had to sacrifice for the Shelby. Owned from September 2006 to August 2010.

2011 Shelby GT500 - Black with tape stripe delete, Electronics package, SVT Performance Package. Owned from August 2010 to present.

#8 OFFLINE   Grabber

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 06:40 AM

OK, thanks fo the technical clarification Grabber.


No problem.

I moved this thread out of the GT500 area into the 5.0 area so it does not confuse GT500 owners.
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Posted Image 2007 GRABBER ORANGE GT500 Coupe ordered 10/13/06. Sub to plant 12/14/06. Scheduled 1/16/07. Bucked 1/17/07. Released From Plant 1/19/07. Plant Quality Hold 1/19/07. Off Plant Quality Hold 2/21/07. Shipped 2/22/07. Delivered 3/8/07. New 2008 2nd Gen. Tranny & Nickle Hub Clutch & Flywheel & Lube & CSC bearing 1/16/2008. New 2009 2nd Gen. Flywheel & another new Nickel Hub Clutch & Pilot Bearing 8/8/08. New 2010 Clutch and flywheel and slave cylinder & pilot bearing and clutch line 8/2/12
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Posted 18 June 2011 - 12:01 PM

There are two schools of thought on this one.

You may want to change that to, a growing number of people.I'm an ASE master tech.I say there is a problem.I know my stuff when it comes to trans problems.




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