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#61 OFFLINE   JeffJ

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 08:26 PM

Was just looking at some of the Shelby photo's from the Shelby American website. This picture shows a couple of the items discussed very well. The painted calipers and the painted lower front spoiler. Some I've seen say that this should not be painted, but on 2006 only, this was painted gloss black which is different than 2007-2008 GT and GT-H. Just a really nice shot of fresh off the production line.
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 07:12 AM

Was just looking at some of the Shelby photo's from the Shelby American website. This picture shows a couple of the items discussed very well. The painted calipers and the painted lower front spoiler. Some I've seen say that this should not be painted, but on 2006 only, this was painted gloss black which is different than 2007-2008 GT and GT-H. Just a really nice shot of fresh off the production line.
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That is a good pic. My calipers were (worn away) painted, my lower fascia is painted as shown. Also that must've been a show/media car, look at the tint on those wndows

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 08:51 AM

Was just looking at some of the Shelby photo's from the Shelby American website. This picture shows a couple of the items discussed very well. The painted calipers and the painted lower front spoiler. Some I've seen say that this should not be painted, but on 2006 only, this was painted gloss black which is different than 2007-2008 GT and GT-H. Just a really nice shot of fresh off the production line.


If you look closer at that pic you'll notice there is no production line yet. The GTH shown is/was one of the concept cars that appears to have been taken close to the time the deal with Hertz was signed. It was the Hertz deal that gave Shelby Automobiles the ability to purchase equipment to set up a production line that produced the GT-H, SGT and KR's that we all love.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 09:38 AM

If you look closer at that pic you'll notice there is no production line yet. The GTH shown is/was one of the concept cars that appears to have been taken close to the time the deal with Hertz was signed. It was the Hertz deal that gave Shelby Automobiles the ability to purchase equipment to set up a production line that produced the GT-H, SGT and KR's that we all love.

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Nice, I was taking a second look at the dark windows after I posted and then figured it had to be a pre-production car. Anyhow, good picture which shows those items. Thanks Steve.
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 10:46 AM

The windowas and lack of Hertz badging on the fender were the tip offs to me.

I am curious though about the front fascia paint. Did they all come from Shelby with the bottom edge and bottom center scoop painted? I've seen some without paint on the lower edge.
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 09:12 PM

If you look closer at that pic you'll notice there is no production line yet. The GTH shown is/was one of the concept cars that appears to have been taken close to the time the deal with Hertz was signed. It was the Hertz deal that gave Shelby Automobiles the ability to purchase equipment to set up a production line that produced the GT-H, SGT and KR's that we all love.

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How cool. The GT-H is what kicked started Shelby and was their first Shelby mustang after 36 years. While it's not the bigest HP car and lacks the manual trans for some folks, it does have special place in Shelby history.
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 09:13 PM

The windowas and lack of Hertz badging on the fender were the tip offs to me.

I am curious though about the front fascia paint. Did they all come from Shelby with the bottom edge and bottom center scoop painted? I've seen some without paint on the lower edge.


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Posted 11 February 2012 - 08:30 AM

I've seen cars in the high 480's numbers painted, so to my knowledge all 2006 front facias should be fully painted. I do believe that this was '06 only, all '07's are not.

AJ, another thing I always wondered, the '06 rear letters are drilled, pinned letters. I would assume that this was changed for 07 to speed the production line? I would imagine the template to drill those little letters accross the rear deck was a pain in the arse! Are you also knowledgeable about the first 30 sets of rear mufflers that were not straight? The story is that these were left crooked instead of changed out as that would be a interesting collectibility difference in the future. At least that is what the magazines stated that Amy said.

Edited by JeffJ, 11 February 2012 - 08:33 AM.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 02:33 AM

I own 07H036, I know that conv GT-H wear 18" rims in order to clear 14" disc brakes.
Now my GT-H looks like she had 13" disc brakes to me.
Someone swaped it or it's a early 07 car that wear 06 GT-H disc brakes?
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Posted 12 February 2012 - 11:11 AM

I own 07H036, I know that conv GT-H wear 18" rims in order to clear 14" disc brakes.
Now my GT-H looks like she had 13" disc brakes to me.
Someone swaped it or it's a early 07 car that wear 06 GT-H disc brakes?
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To my knowledge the 07 had the 18" rims but still had the same brakes that the 06 have. I would be surprized if someone swaped for smaller brake set up. Maybe AJ can provide some insight.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 11:17 AM

To my knowledge the 07 had the 18" rims but still had the same brakes that the 06 have. I would be surprized if someone swaped for smaller brake set up. Maybe AJ can provide some insight.


Correct. Just like the 2006 GTH cars the 2007 GTH brakes were stock Mustang GT brakes. If your GTH has low enough miles you should still see the factory tinnerman spring nut/clip on one of the wheel studs that kept the rotor in place while moving down Ford's assembly line.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 07:55 PM

If you look closer at that pic you'll notice there is no production line yet. The GTH shown is/was one of the concept cars that appears to have been taken close to the time the deal with Hertz was signed. It was the Hertz deal that gave Shelby Automobiles the ability to purchase equipment to set up a production line that produced the GT-H, SGT and KR's that we all love.

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Sorry Steve, I have to correct you. The production line for the '06 GT-H was left over from the Series I. At least the lifts were. However, you are correct in saying that this is a concept car. It doesn't have the GT-H badge on the fender. We only got those on the production cars, last minute before we needed to start shipping cars to Hertz.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 08:05 PM

I've seen cars in the high 480's numbers painted, so to my knowledge all 2006 front facias should be fully painted. I do believe that this was '06 only, all '07's are not.

AJ, another thing I always wondered, the '06 rear letters are drilled, pinned letters. I would assume that this was changed for 07 to speed the production line? I would imagine the template to drill those little letters accross the rear deck was a pain in the arse! Are you also knowledgeable about the first 30 sets of rear mufflers that were not straight? The story is that these were left crooked instead of changed out as that would be a interesting collectibility difference in the future. At least that is what the magazines stated that Amy said.


The Shelby letters came from Scott Drake and since the original cars in the '60s were drilled and with the pins, we had to live with those for a while. But as soon as we started building cars, we have realized how many problems the drilling would cause. Not only for the assembly time, but also for drilling holes in a perfectly good decklid.

Don't believe everything that Amy says/said... We had no choice but to ship the cars with the crooked mufflers. Ford's supplier was having problems that couldn't be solved on time for us to ship the cars. We had contractual obligations to start delivering the vehicles to the various Hertz locations. A crooked muffler wasn't going to stop us from doing that.

The fact that now that imperfection is adding to the collectibility value of the cars is just an added bonus. Amy was actually very pissed that we had to ship cars with the "defective" mufflers.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 08:10 PM

To my knowledge the 07 had the 18" rims but still had the same brakes that the 06 have. I would be surprized if someone swaped for smaller brake set up. Maybe AJ can provide some insight.


I think I've said it in other threads already that Shelby has not done anything to the GT-H or the GT or the KR that would involve draining fluids. Therefore, the stock brakes were untouched on all those cars. The 18" black Bullitt rims were not available to us/Hertz in '06. That's why they were not on the prototype SGTs either.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 06:51 AM

The Shelby letters came from Scott Drake and since the original cars in the '60s were drilled and with the pins, we had to live with those for a while. But as soon as we started building cars, we have realized how many problems the drilling would cause. Not only for the assembly time, but also for drilling holes in a perfectly good decklid.

Don't believe everything that Amy says/said... We had no choice but to ship the cars with the crooked mufflers. Ford's supplier was having problems that couldn't be solved on time for us to ship the cars. We had contractual obligations to start delivering the vehicles to the various Hertz locations. A crooked muffler wasn't going to stop us from doing that.

The fact that now that imperfection is adding to the collectibility value of the cars is just an added bonus. Amy was actually very pissed that we had to ship cars with the "defective" mufflers.

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Thanks! When I bought my car, it drove me crazy how off center the left rear tail pipe was. I figured that it must have been hit or backed into something, but there were no scratches or any signs of damage in any way. Then I read in the magazine how 30 sets went out with the left side quite crooked. Those mufflers are now put away in boxes with all the other stock stuff I've removed. I pretty much don't believe anything I read or hear from the media unless I hear it directly from the person involved. Thanks for helping fill alot of these gaps AJ! This will be very helpful in future GT-H owners research on these fantastic cars and a big part of Shelby History. Here's the thread with the picture of my crooked exhaust.
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Posted 13 February 2012 - 08:44 AM

Sorry Steve, I have to correct you. The production line for the '06 GT-H was left over from the Series I. At least the lifts were. However, you are correct in saying that this is a concept car. It doesn't have the GT-H badge on the fender. We only got those on the production cars, last minute before we needed to start shipping cars to Hertz.

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Its my understanding and from my recollection there was very little "equipment" left from the Series 1 bankruptcy. Yes there had to be a few lifts around for the the small amount of work still being performed back then but it was imperative that Hertz money was to be sent upfront so that new equipment, including many lifts, could be purchased and set up in time for the first Mustang GT arrivals.

It was a very somber time for SA following the Series 1 bankruptcy with all the building moves and Carroll taking his personal possessions back to California. In hindsight I should have taken some pics but at the time Shelby American was on life support with a poor prognosis for survival. But then came Daisy, the Ford GT and the 2005 Ford Mustang. As they say the rest is history.

I'll see if I can dig up some pics of the Series 1 production line.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 01:46 PM

Its my understanding and from my recollection there was very little "equipment" left from the Series 1 bankruptcy. Yes there had to be a few lifts around for the the small amount of work still being performed back then but it was imperative that Hertz money was to be sent upfront so that new equipment, including many lifts, could be purchased and set up in time for the first Mustang GT arrivals.

It was a very somber time for SA following the Series 1 bankruptcy with all the building moves and Carroll taking his personal possessions back to California. In hindsight I should have taken some pics but at the time Shelby American was on life support with a poor prognosis for survival. But then came Daisy, the Ford GT and the 2005 Ford Mustang. As they say the rest is history.

I'll see if I can dig up some pics of the Series 1 production line.

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For the GT-H we used the existing 6 lifts, left over from the Series 1. We tooled them up for those first 500 cars by pretty much bootstrapping everything. Between the summer of '06 and January '07 when we were getting ready for the SGT, that's when we went and grew the actual line to 15 lifts plus the 2 in the back corner. Most of the tools came from the sponsorship deal with MAC Tools.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:04 AM

Thank you all for sharing your acknoledgement.
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 02:02 PM

Attached is a pic of the GTH production area that used the same general set-up as the Series 1 cars. I'm counting four lifts at the time this pic was taken.

I tried checking Oasis to see how many lifts were in place for the GTH program but its only showing me current lift status of 15 lifts. It is the difference between these 4 lifts and the larger 15 lift production area that I was referring to when I posted that the Hertz money was desperately needed by SAI.

The purchase of these additional lifts required a new layout for the production area which I'm guessing AJ you had a hand in laying out for maximum production?

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 05:48 PM

Attached is a pic of the GTH production area that used the same general set-up as the Series 1 cars. I'm counting four lifts at the time this pic was taken.

I tried checking Oasis to see how many lifts were in place for the GTH program but its only showing me current lift status of 15 lifts. It is the difference between these 4 lifts and the larger 15 lift production area that I was referring to when I posted that the Hertz money was desperately needed by SAI.

The purchase of these additional lifts required a new layout for the production area which I'm guessing AJ you had a hand in laying out for maximum production?

Steve


Hey, I see my car. Oh they all are the same. Thanks for posting Steve.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 06:30 AM

steve, you have any pics of the 07 build Hertz
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Posted 18 February 2012 - 04:41 PM

Attached is a pic of the GTH production area that used the same general set-up as the Series 1 cars. I'm counting four lifts at the time this pic was taken.

I tried checking Oasis to see how many lifts were in place for the GTH program but its only showing me current lift status of 15 lifts. It is the difference between these 4 lifts and the larger 15 lift production area that I was referring to when I posted that the Hertz money was desperately needed by SAI.

The purchase of these additional lifts required a new layout for the production area which I'm guessing AJ you had a hand in laying out for maximum production?

Steve


Steve,
On your picture you are missing lifts #5 and #6 on the left. When we switched to the SGT we turned the lifts 90 degrees and added another 9 lifts. We have also moved 2 lifts to the back corner (would be the right side of your picture) and the 07 GT-Hs were mostly built on those 2 lifts. I had both hands elbows and the rest of my entire body in laying out the plant.... Actually I'm pretty proud of how well it turned out...

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 08:12 AM

Was searching through the threads and found this one. Just thought I would bump up as some cool info and maybe some new owners will find this of interest. By the way, never answered, were could a new security wire be obtained? Oh, ya A.J. is back :)

Edited by H0050, 29 September 2014 - 08:14 AM.

Harald #50

CSM 06H0050: Registered as a Shelby GT-H/SC
Black CS 69 w/ 255/45/18 & 285/40/18 BFG G-Force KDW
Lower Billet Grill
Air Bag Signed by Carroll Shelby, Amy Boylan, Gary Davis, Gary Patterson & Cleo Shelby
40th Anniversary Signature Floor Mats w/ Gold Stripes
Shelby GT Plus & Eradispeed 14" brakes & S/S brake lines
Sequential Tail lights
GTH Billet Fluid Caps
SAI installed polished Paxton SC # 0066 w/ GT 500 fuel pump
GT-H/SC side stripes
Shelby gauges & gauge pod
424RWHP 367 Torque
KR rear end expansion tank
2009 Shelby Bash top 20 winner
2011 Bash In & Out cruise recognition plaque
Painted over the top stripes
Terlingua Deep Draw Hood
2014 Vegas Bash Show & Shine Class Winner

The race is run, the flag unfurled, the champion now will rest.
God speed, Carroll Shelby, we will never forget you.
CARROLL H SHELBY

Jan. 11, 1923 May 10, 2012


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