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#1 OFFLINE   carnut12

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 12:25 PM

I was driving the Shelby around to put some miles on it, the weather is outstanding for February in New England. I pulled up to a light and a Challenger SRT pulled behind me. I took off regular and then when I hit 2nd I nailed it a little bit (Maybe more than a little), those tires were like they were on ice, Traction control kicked in for less than a second and then the car started going sideways. I ended up going into on coming traffic (thankfully no cars coming), just about hitting the curb on the other side of the road, then reacted to much and with in seconds I was heading towards the curb on my side of the road. Finally I got control.

Lesson learned for me, guy in the Challenger was probably laughing his ass off.

How I didn't wreck is just luck, honestly I absolutely should have.

Figured maybe my story would save someone else even if it does make me look like an ass.
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 12:54 PM

I was driving the Shelby around to put some miles on it, the weather is outstanding for February in New England. I pulled up to a light and a Challenger SRT pulled behind me. I took off regular and then when I hit 2nd I nailed it a little bit (Maybe more than a little), those tires were like they were on ice, Traction control kicked in for less than a second and then the car started going sideways. I ended up going into on coming traffic (thankfully no cars coming), just about hitting the curb on the other side of the road, then reacted to much and with in seconds I was heading towards the curb on my side of the road. Finally I got control.

Lesson learned for me, guy in the Challenger was probably laughing his ass off.

How I didn't wreck is just luck, honestly I absolutely should have.

Figured maybe my story would save someone else even if it does make me look like an ass.

Good save. Been there..done that. Like you, I've learned. :rockon:

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 01:43 PM

Thanks

And by the way it scared the living sh!t out of me.............

Respect the cold and even more so respect the Power of the car
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 04:50 PM

When I picked my car up from Tasca after the SC upgrade I had a similar experience. I was getting on the highway from an onramp. I was in 3rd gear. I gave it too much throttle and the car started to go sideways. I am still AMAZED at the power and torque you get from a supercharger.
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:55 PM

Gosh, this thread scared me. I am glad you are okay.
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 07:10 PM

Gosh, this thread scared me. I am glad you are okay.


Thank you, it is hard to explain how fast it happened, I let off the gas, but the thing was already out of control, I did not hit the brake, I have always been told not to in these situations. All I did was try to get control back and try to miss hitting the curb. Glad I did not hurt anyone else.
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 07:20 PM

This is a common lesson to be learned with the factory Goodyears. I had a similar exchange of front to rear with both my Shelby GT/Sc and the Cobra. When I got my Ford GT I didn't even think about it - I swapped the Goodyear tires for sticky Bridgestones.

For the record, we're glad nothing bad happened but remember these cars come with a note about low temperatures. They mean it.
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 07:38 PM

Yup They are like four hockey pucks when its cold out .

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:08 PM

...I let off the gas, but the thing was already out of control, I did not hit the brake,


The phenomenon is known as a "lift off" event, or also known as (de)compression braking which results in oversteer. Another name is trailing throttle oversteer. Been there, done that. The Shelby GT/SC did it, but I could create it at will with the Cobra - just downshift from 3rd to 2nd to make a 90* left turn on cold pavement or on wet pavement.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:19 PM

I would leave the TC off. I found the car spins the tires but does not go left and right as the TC tries to kick in . Best bet is to not get to pedal heavy on the street. Glad all is OK
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:39 PM

Wow; scary thought. I'd have a heart rate over 300 by the end of that.

With a v6, the road is a little more forgiving, but I lose traction just the same as everyone else, but have to say: any pointers would be appriciated.

Also, who knows anything about the tire company 'Nexen'.
These were the tires that came with my car, and while I've seen good reviews online, they worry me a little as being low tier.



Once again, glad to see this isn't a junk yard story. I'm sure your driving skills were what saved you.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:03 PM

40 degrees! Blowers love those temps, probably added another 100hp to the car that day! :o
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 06:29 AM

Are you still running the factory BF Goodrich tires? If not which tires?

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 02:21 PM

Yep had the GT500 out today temp was about 39 nailed it in 2nd and it started fish tailing, trick is not to oversteer and back off the gas half way and it will work out ok, and your right not to hit the brakes. Glad all is ok with you...dont fear the beast work with it.......

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 03:35 PM

Are you still running the factory BF Goodrich tires? If not which tires?


No I have Nitto, but I think any High Performance tire would have done the same. I guess it just seemed Warm to me, in reality it was not. Not to mention the car had only been driven 5 miles or so prior so they were cold as can be.
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 04:04 PM

That's a scary situation. So glad to hear your okay... Lesson learned. No horse play if you're taking it out in sub 40 weather. No matter what tire.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:17 PM

I have to say these cars are seriously gorilla's and the wheel spin is out of control. You really have to feel the car to drive it right and I have read to many posts you have made....it was just one of those things that happened and thankfully you got it right at the last second.
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:32 PM

I have to say these cars are seriously gorilla's and the wheel spin is out of control. You really have to feel the car to drive it right and I have read to many posts you have made....it was just one of those things that happened and thankfully you got it right at the last second.
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Posted 21 February 2012 - 03:11 AM

John Walker (former director of sales of SAI) once told me (before my SGT/SC was shipped to me from SAI)" If you bury your foot in it in 2nd geer, make sure there is nothing in front of you, nothing in back of you, and nothing on the sides because it is going to want to rip the tires off the rims"

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 04:01 AM

Hmmm maybe its actually a good thing that I can't plunk down the money for a GT/SC!!

I had a somewhat similar situation years ago w/ my then new 1986 RX-7. I went around a circular exit ramp a little too quickly in cold weather and spun around and ended up sideways in the middle of the one-lane-wide ramp. Fortunately, no one was behind me. That's when I learned my lesson about cold weather traction. I also learned a lot about lack of traction when I SCCA raced in the rain!

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 07:04 AM

Supercharger creates a whole new beast! Supercharger + cold weather + summer tires (Nitto 555) = ANOTHER new beast! Plenty of extra power available with cold, dense air - I'm amazed how quickly the rear end breaks loose in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and beyond!

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 07:13 PM

No I have Nitto, but I think any High Performance tire would have done the same. I guess it just seemed Warm to me, in reality it was not. Not to mention the car had only been driven 5 miles or so prior so they were cold as can be.


Cold tires will make you a believer real quick like....Glad you and your car are OK. These things are beasts. I was initially running the SGT brakes and had a guy cut smack in front of me from slow lane to fast lane (no turn signal, nothing) as I was getting on it and man I thought for a second I might rear end him trying to get that thing slowed down. These cars are truly amazing vehicles...Cheers!

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 07:43 PM

In a situation like that I might have just done that. I replaced my calipers and brake pads in the front, but the back needs work. That, and these Nexen tires are somewhat a mystery, but from the people I've asked they aren't anything to trust in an all out 'smashing the brakes' stop. So much work to do over the summer.

To think that's only a v6, and not a high horsepower v6. You guys are lucky (and skilled) to have not had anything bad happen. Wow.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:59 PM

Luck in my case. I now have brembos and lots more rubber. Still its a lot of car, kinda like riding a sportbike, car is not even working to keep up and pass traffic easily. So love this car. Best part is turn key change oil at dealer. Amazing.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 06:01 AM

Definitely a butt pucker moment.

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NHRA Pro Stock guys have a phrase for this (when a car gets "squirrelly"): "PUSH IN THE CLUTCH". GAME OVER.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 04:14 PM

imagine how bad that could be for someone that has a SC and a built engine with lots more HP. Mine's not a GT/SC yet but it will be in a couple of months after I get it to Tasca. I appreciate the story. BTW - what ever happend to John Walker? He was always great to me when I was dealing with him.
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#28 OFFLINE   carnut12

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 04:49 PM

Cold tires will make you a believer real quick like....Glad you and your car are OK. These things are beasts. I was initially running the SGT brakes and had a guy cut smack in front of me from slow lane to fast lane (no turn signal, nothing) as I was getting on it and man I thought for a second I might rear end him trying to get that thing slowed down. These cars are truly amazing vehicles...Cheers!


Thank you, this was one of the first times I nailed second like I did. I have done it in 3rd many times, thankfully I was only in 2nd so the car was not going as fast, if I was in 3rd it would not have ended the way it did.

Agreed these are Amazing Vehicles, honestly I do not know what people do with more power than this??? I get it if you go to the the strip, but other than that what does having 700-800 HP do besides spin tires?
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#29 OFFLINE   Helix

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:06 PM

You used your get-out-of-jail-free on this one. ;)
Although, this is a dumb question, what does GT/SC stand for?

And how has the driving been since this?

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#30 OFFLINE   SGT/SC#0471

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:59 PM

I have to say these cars are seriously gorilla's and the wheel spin is out of control. You really have to feel the car to drive it right and I have read to many posts you have made....it was just one of those things that happened and thankfully you got it right at the last second.
Wow.
PS: Just got my car back from paint and inew 20" Black with machined face CS40's (yes again)......it looks wet just standing there in the garage. Drool.

OK, Back on topic.


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