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[corepuncher]

I tried AMSOIL and an MGW shifter.  Here are my thoughts after driving the car for 1.5 years.  

Summary:  I grind a lot less than I did when I first got the car.

1)  Minimal if any change using the AMSOIL.
2)  MGW shifter is very nice, although I IMMEDIATELY noticed an increase in noise...I might try to add more sound mat and padding sometime.  But if you put it together like the instructions say, you will hear a lot of noise especially 1 and 2nd.

Basically, I have learned how to drive the car with time.  The key is a very small pause.  I have gotten so I don't even have to think about the pause anymore...here's how.

The MGW shifter is very stiff and precise....more so than the stock one which is cushy by comparison.   This means that shifter motions are exact every time and you can use that to your advantage.

When shifting from 1st to 2nd, I simultaneously hit the clutch to the floor and pull the shifter to the LEFT. This leftward movement is JUST ENOUGH DELAY so that when you pull it back into 2nd, it does not grind.  Works almost every time.  Just think "L" shape shift, or a Knight in Chess.  Now it has become second nature.

Now for drag racing, maybe it's a different story...but I don't do that.

[rocky]

corepuncher, on 22 November 2012 - 08:01 PM, said:

I tried AMSOIL and an MGW shifter.  Here are my thoughts after driving the car for 1.5 years.  

Summary:  I grind a lot less than I did when I first got the car.

1)  Minimal if any change using the AMSOIL.
2)  MGW shifter is very nice, although I IMMEDIATELY noticed an increase in noise...I might try to add more sound mat and padding sometime.  But if you put it together like the instructions say, you will hear a lot of noise especially 1 and 2nd.

Basically, I have learned how to drive the car with time.  The key is a very small pause.  I have gotten so I don't even have to think about the pause anymore...here's how.

The MGW shifter is very stiff and precise....more so than the stock one which is cushy by comparison.   This means that shifter motions are exact every time and you can use that to your advantage.

When shifting from 1st to 2nd, I simultaneously hit the clutch to the floor and pull the shifter to the LEFT. This leftward movement is JUST ENOUGH DELAY so that when you pull it back into 2nd, it does not grind.  Works almost every time.  Just think "L" shape shift, or a Knight in Chess.  Now it has become second nature.

Now for drag racing, maybe it's a different story...but I don't do that.

I think the problem with all of these cars is that they have a hydrolic clutch and due to the size of the hydrolic line there is a slight delay, if you used a larger line I think it would cure this problem. In the old days they had manual clutches and you could shift very fast.

[corepuncher]

I was thinking of ordering the 60 dollar line.   Hey, Black Friday, only 54!

[rocky]

corepuncher, on 23 November 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:

I was thinking of ordering the 60 dollar line.   Hey, Black Friday, only 54!

If you do intall the larger line please let me know if my thoughts on this problem are correct.

[2010KonaBlueGT]

corepuncher, on 23 November 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:

I was thinking of ordering the 60 dollar line.   Hey, Black Friday, only 54!

Where from? I remember seeing a braided SS line someone posted way back but lost all of my bookmarks in a HD reload.

I think it might have been Ford Racing but I can't find one on the FRPP site.



Phill

[corepuncher]

http://www.lethalper...ne-upgrade.html

Free shipping, 10% off = 54.00.   I think it's worth a try < shrug >

[CMA212]

I dont know about the 1-2 but occasionally I have issues trying to put the car into Reverse.. cant figure out why

[2010KonaBlueGT]

CMA212, on 01 December 2012 - 08:46 AM, said:

I dont know about the 1-2 but occasionally I have issues trying to put the car into Reverse.. cant figure out why

Reverse lock-out solenoid.

I had a problem with mine. It locked me out of Reverse. I had to pull it off and unstick it.


Phill

[corepuncher]

Let me guess, when you have it sitting in neutral and quickly put it in reverse, it grinds?

I guess things are "spinning" in neutral.  Shove it up to 3rd then go into reverse, no grind.

[knightowl]

Just wondering if there's any recent news from anyone for a TSB still potentially being issued for this problem?

I think last I heard, it was looking more and more that one might be coming out for Jan 2013 based on what I read on another thread. I'll be taking mine out of storage in a couple months I hope up here in Canada and sure be nice to get the car in earlier than later to have this looked at.

I realize sometimes the one behind the wheel could be part of the problem too, but I had an 88 GT 5.0 from new and used to quickly get it into second gear without a grind; even back then at 225 HP, it was quite a fast car. I don't think that I've changed my driving habits and yet after letting the car break in for awhile before attempting any higher rev shifts, I've had the 1-2 grind about a dozen times now and about 10000 km's on the car. I simply don't do the higher rev shifts now in fear of feeling that grind again, so either a lower rev quick shift and no problems there or a higher rev shift with a pause and of course that works too. I just think that these being performance vehicles, one should be able to do that quick shift and not have to come up with ways to avoid the grind and that takes a little bit of fun out of things, that's all.

Thx everyone.

Rob

Edited by knightowl, 23 February 2013 - 07:56 AM.

[Ecrissman]

Don't hold your breath. Of course rumor has it a TSB is coming for the last (fill in the blank) years! Your gonna have to be satisfied you have a cool looking car. Fords not doing sh!t with these cars, I bought this cool for the cool factor to add to the garage candy. I am done with sub standard junk. We bought a over priced under valued Mustang. Lick the wounds and learn from it.

[knightowl]

Hey Ecrissman;

Thanks for your reply! Just so unfortunate if that's the case that Ford won't do anything about this whatsoever as it's more than a "one off" issue. I know what you're saying and I too got the car for the awesome look and of course performance and no regrets whatsoever; maybe I'm just being picky but I don't think any of us here are asking too much. Regardless, I'll keep enjoying my Shelby and love to cruise around in it.

[MJN]

Correct me if im wrong but was it not said some where that Tremec has been even asked about this and they said what ever the issue is I forget, (I know one is the line), is that Ford had them design it like that to slow the shiffting down on the car.  One of the video's I remember seeing even on the 13's they talk about something with slown the shift down. So I assume thats why we get the grind when trying to shift fast.  Why some have it and others don't, I have no idea.   Maybe I'm just thinking out loud here.

[knightowl]

MJN;

I hadn't heard that, but that's an interesting point if Tremec deliberately designed things that way based on Ford's request! Of course any other information from anybody would be beneficial too. Thanks, I'm going to look further into this one.

[MJN]

I think it was on SVT Performace forum that I read it, I also tried looking for the you tube vid on the 13 with Jamal but could not find and gave up lol sorry.  Maybe i'll try again and get lucky.

[bpodner]

Not trying to discount your problems but I don't think it's an intentional design "flaw". I know 7 other GT500 owners and no one has had a 1-2 shift problem. I had over 21000 miles on my 2009 and over 11000 miles on my 2011 and haven't had a problem. Hope you get it worked out.

[knightowl]

Thx bpodner!  I'll be checking with the dealer very soon to at least get the ball rolling earlier than later. If the car is in the shoppe, would prefer early spring so I can have summer and fall to enjoy it

[bigsnake]

corepuncher, on 23 November 2012 - 07:18 PM, said:

http://www.lethalper...ne-upgrade.html

Free shipping, 10% off = 54.00.   I think it's worth a try < shrug >

Here's my question.
When you go to the site and look at fitment it shows SVT GT500.
Does that mean my regular GT 500 is not included for this upgrade ?

Edited by bigsnake, 25 February 2013 - 02:10 PM.

[IngotSilverSnake]

Ecrissman, on 23 February 2013 - 03:36 PM, said:

Don't hold your breath. Of course rumor has it a TSB is coming for the last (fill in the blank) years! Your gonna have to be satisfied you have a cool looking car. Fords not doing sh!t with these cars, I bought this cool for the cool factor to add to the garage candy. I am done with sub standard junk. We bought a over priced under valued Mustang. Lick the wounds and learn from it.

Overpriced, undervalued?  I don't think so.  My care has functioned flawlessly from day 1.  I broke it in carefully and don't beat the crap out of it.  I have no complaints whatsoever.

[Ecrissman]

IngotSilverSnake, on 25 February 2013 - 03:17 PM, said:

Overpriced, undervalued?  I don't think so.  My care has functioned flawlessly from day 1.  I broke it in carefully and don't beat the crap out of it.  I have no complaints whatsoever.

I guess it depends on your standards.