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#21 OFFLINE   springer

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 05:42 PM

Jeff is there a serial number on the block for the aluminator?  It should be on the passeneger side of the block if there is one.  I didn't see a serial number on the box from your photo.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 06:06 PM

View Postspringer, on 17 April 2012 - 05:42 PM, said:

Jeff is there a serial number on the block for the aluminator?  It should be on the passeneger side of the block if there is one.  I didn't see a serial number on the box from your photo.

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Yes, FRT adds this plate to the right rear of the engine:
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Posted 17 April 2012 - 07:25 PM

Yeah but could you JB Weld those pieces back?

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 08:41 PM

Wow to the oil pan collection.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 05:52 AM

I'm learning that putting an aluminator into an 5R55S auto tranny car is not just a plug and play operation.  There is no 8 bolt flexplate which just works for this.  On one you have to enlarge holes to fit the converter bolts, on another you have to space it....on and on.  Best and cheapest solution appears to be using a truck V10 flexplate part number 1C3Z6375BA.  Still not a simple bolt on.  Here, if you are using the stock converter or a TCI, you must take the stock converter adapter plate to a machine shop to reduce the overall diameter about 1/4" to fit in the diameter of the flexplate.  I already have the TCI converter, so this I must do.  Oh boy!  If you have a PI converter, you do not use the stock adapter plate, so there are no clearance issues, simple plug and play.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 06:05 AM

View PostJeffJ, on 17 April 2012 - 05:23 PM, said:

Here's the best picture yet.  Here's the contents of the oil pan.  Not sure what I was worried about, the piston was right there in the pan the entire time.  See, piston, rings, rod, it's all right there!

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WOW! Good thing the screen on the sump did it's job, you wouldn't want to suck up all that crap!!!!






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Posted 18 April 2012 - 06:14 AM

View PostDoug_GT350, on 18 April 2012 - 06:05 AM, said:

WOW! Good thing the screen on the sump did it's job, you wouldn't want to suck up all that crap!!!!
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Yea, cause that could have damaged something! :hysterical2:   There is pretty much nothing useable from the engine.  I found pieces of block in the water pump!  Unbelievable where I'm finding parts and pieces!  Might want to cut the oil filter apart and see what is in there!
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 07:59 AM

Good thing the oil pan caught all the fallout...  Wouldn't want to get a ticket for littering :hysterical2: :hysterical: ...
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 01:45 PM

Wow, that was a major implosion.  I like the oil pan pic - it's almost a piece of art :)
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 02:05 PM

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Wow, that was a major implosion.  I like the oil pan pic - it's almost a piece of art :)

Indeed!

I have a piston with a valve stuck in it from the factory and for some reason ART is cast into the piston, I will try and post a pic later super funny.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 11:49 AM

Too bad it's to big for a paper weight, maybe a boat anchor? Sorry to hear about this! Keep us up on the progress.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 05:29 PM

I also went with an Aluminator block (by choice not necesity) couple of things I did that you may want to consider

Steel timing chain tensioners from (2v) part #'s

F6AZ-6L266-DA Tensioner - RH (2 Valve Steel Bodied)
F6AZ-6L266-CA Tensioner - LH (2 Valve Steel Bodied)


and TSS oil pump with Billet gears

here is a link to some photos from my build

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:18 PM

Thanks for the info.  I just ordered the FRPP CNC heads, plugs, coils, dampner, flexplate, and a bunch of other stuff today.  So hopefully try to start putting it together here in a couple weeks.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:53 PM

I am waiting & watching.  Nice build Andrew
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 07:48 PM

Who tuned it ?  I understand if you don't want to say, but I wouldn't be taking it back to them.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 05:46 PM

Is this done yet?  We need video :)
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 06:06 PM

I know.  No, I haven't touched it in three weeks.  The grow season was so early this year and I'm farming my own hay this year.  So I've been working on my equipment to get the hay cut today.  I have to bale this weekend, so it's going to be a few more weeks before I can work on my car.  I just have no time with so many things going on.  I wanted to have it done for Steamboat in two weeks, but I'm not going to rush it.  I want it to be completely right, so it's going to take time.  I know.  I wanted it done by now also.......  I have too many jobs!  Working the Grand-Am races, farming, my regular job, mustang club, Team Shelby.  I'm a bit over extended right now!

Oh yea, I did get the flexplate and converter plate back from the machine shop however.  I still can't believe that Ford does not make a flexplate to put the Aluminator in an automatic car.  I did have to get a V-10 flex plate and then have the converter plate machined down to fit in it flush.

Edited by JeffJ, 28 May 2012 - 06:45 PM.

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 07:00 AM

Well?  Did you get it done in time for Steamboat (which is today)?
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Posted 16 June 2012 - 06:48 PM

View Posttwobjshelbys, on 16 June 2012 - 07:00 AM, said:

Well?  Did you get it done in time for Steamboat (which is today)?

Nope, still doing the farming thing.  But I did go up last minute to work the firefighters give away car booth and I drove my '65 up.  While not my Shelby, as Gary would say, I still had some damn fun!

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 09:08 PM

Any traction on the build?
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