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#1 OFFLINE   RogerS

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 12:28 PM

What are your thoughts for a limited run updated Shelby GT?

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 12:34 PM

Roger,

How many units would you be talking about? Would it be pre-title?

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 12:46 PM

I would keep with the GTS format and maybe push the 5.0 more. Most people think the GTS is only for a V6, not knowing that there is is also a GT package. Isn't the GTS 5.0 really a more modern version of the Shelby GT? Other than not pre-title of course. I would so get a 50th black gold GTS 5.0 right now if I could swing it. Maybe soon, but not right now. Just a thought. I would think that the current GTS vs. a new Shelby GT would be about the same thing?
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 01:10 PM

No, I think it would devalue our cars in the long run.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 01:13 PM

I agree that the current V8 GTS is close to the '07-'08 Shelby GT.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 01:40 PM

I think you could sell them better if they were pre-title. Personally, I wouldn't want one, but I'm sure a pre-title car would help sales. I wouldn't have a problem with a run. I think the new cars are different enough that they wouldn't effect our cars that much. We have the first generation which will always be the best.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 02:58 PM

I think it would make more sense to do a Shelby GT with the next generation Mustang (2014). One for each generation.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 04:21 PM

Were I a Shelby GT owner already, I'd hope an updated version would not be offered. It would have all the corrections that have come to the surface on these forums. Part of the SGT ownership mystique is the initiation ritual of coping with stripe and scoop problems, so anyone who didn't have to go through all that would not value the car as much (science has proved this principle).

For those who missed the opportunity first time around, a New Improved SGT would be very difficult to resist. Particularly if the option list included choice of colors, stripes, springs, wheels, tires and all the stuff SGT owners have slathered on with such joy and abandon. (Wait! make "Your Choice of Problems" an option!) Even more of an attractive offer if the price were close to that of the original SGTs.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 04:39 PM

Damn, I thought this was going to be about the V8 Deep Draw hood... :poke:

I do want one of those!!

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 05:35 PM

if shelby wants to build it, let him. he deservices it. in the long run it will increase the value of our original 06, 07 08, 09, shelbys. god bless caroll shelby. what do you think socalwrench?

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 05:52 PM

Roger to keep costs down why don't you guys work out a deal with Ford and run it down the assembly line with the upgrades so you save on take off parts. If your going to do this I would kill the V8 GTS now and plow forward. I'd be in but I want more color/stripe selection and options, but don't want to pay more than about $15K for the base Shelby package similar to the 07-08 runs, the horsepower is already there, I think the tweaks would be handling and brakes along with cosmetic ques. Just my thoughts. Make it a limited edition run...... GG

Whoops edit edit edit, why didn't you call the Shebly GTS a Shelby GT and lets add driving lights as standard like the GT-H??????

I can tell this is going to be an interesting post.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 06:37 PM

What are your thoughts for a limited run updated Shelby GT?

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 06:43 PM

What are your thoughts for a limited run updated Shelby GT?

Roger


I feel the 07'-08' SGT is an updated version of the 66' GT350 with its billet grill, hood scope, five spoke mag style wheels, and no spoiler. That is the attraction for me, as it stands out at Shelby shows because of that vintage look. Now if a 2014 SGT looked very similar to the 69'-70' GT350, I would be temped to raid the 401K for it. I also favor metallic paint and silver stripes.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 09:36 PM

I feel the 07'-08' SGT is an updated version of the 66' GT350 with its billet grill, hood scope, five spoke mag style wheels, and no spoiler. That is the attraction for me, as it stands out at Shelby shows because of that vintage look. Now if a 2014 SGT looked very similar to the 69'-70' GT350, I would be temped to raid the 401K for it. I also favor metallic paint and silver stripes.

I did raid my 401k for my 07 SGT. It was that important to have.

Shelby should consider a improved package after the BOSS 302 run ends.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 11:26 PM

I'm good where I am at with new cars for now.

Saying that if I was in the market, the taillights still don't do anything for me, unless given the GT350 taillight panel.

So fix that and you'd have a cooler car IMO.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 03:28 AM

For me it all depends on what is offered and what it looks like. The 07-08 SGT will always be more valuable than a standard Mustang GT but I don't believe it will be by much. How well they are cared for and mileage will dictate value more than anything.

If we are talking a choice of body and stripe colors with the SGT hood scoop, Ford Racing suspension on the Mustang GT track-pack car (Brembos and recaros) I would be very interested.

For me the though decision would be 'Do I want an New SGT or a BOSS?'
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:54 AM

What are your thoughts for a limited run updated Shelby GT?

Roger


Nope, don't do it! I think the 06 GTH and the 07-08 Shelby GTs SHOULD have been the GT350, but that's water under the bridge. There's plenty of choices out there now, and I'm betting (as stated above) that the Mach 1 won't be long in coming.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:31 AM

Nope, don't do it! I think the 06 GTH and the 07-08 Shelby GTs SHOULD have been the GT350, but that's water under the bridge. There's plenty of choices out there now, and I'm betting (as stated above) that the Mach 1 won't be long in coming.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 12:50 PM

Roger,

CLEARLY Shelby needs to do a SHELBY BOSS 302.

Think about it .......there will be about 7,000 Bosses Built and many people will MOD them so why not offer a SHELBY BOSS package.

You better hurry up as mine is getting the Shelby Radiator and brake ducts within the next couple weeks. BMR shifter will be here in a couple weeks as well.

AND if people do MOD their Bosses for the sake of man kind please deduct those mod prices from the Shelby Boss package. Otherwise you will get people that just say SCREW it.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 12:51 PM

I'm not bitter.......about that SR package....lol

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 01:41 PM

So, Roger........

Tell us what is being thought about........
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 04:02 PM

The Shelby GT is a great, special car because of the pre-title construction at Shelby Autos. I think the KR's also share that distinction. A proper Shelby GT should always be constructed & sold in the same manner.
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 04:33 PM

All very interesting comments. We do have a product plan but if everyone who owns or did own a Shelby GT remembers, the core of the car was handling. We all know about the issues. I belive they were lessons learned. Here is what I read and hear: If you do it,
  • Has to handle
  • Is pre-post title a real issue (all cars coming through Las Vegas are modified in Las Vegas) CSM/Badging etc. to some it does. Pre-title would be nice though.
  • No fake hood scoops
  • Better quality stripes or stripe delete avalibility
  • Shifter
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  • Distinctive looks
Add to the list. There could be a case made for a GTS (V-6) GT (V8). Just listening to what our potential market would like to see if it came to life.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 04:47 PM

All very interesting comments. We do have a product plan but if everyone who owns or did own a Shelby GT remembers, the core of the car was handling. We all know about the issues. I belive they were lessons learned. Here is what I read and hear: If you do it,

  • Has to handle
  • Is pre-post title a real issue (all cars coming through Las Vegas are modified in Las Vegas) CSM/Badging etc. to some it does. Pre-title would be nice though.
  • No fake hood scoops
  • Better quality stripes or stripe delete avalibility
  • Shifter
  • Exhaust
  • Distinctive looks
Add to the list. There could be a case made for a GTS (V-6) GT (V8). Just listening to what our potential market would like to see if it came to life.


Paint the stripes please!
And make it handle like its on rails.
Make it simple and cool...like a SGT! ;@)

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 04:56 PM

Great discussion and I agree that the Shelby GT should be a different animal from the GTS. I like the new body style more and more but would not ever trade in 0645 for one. I think the GTS aspires to fill the niche for a Mustang buyer who wants more than a GT but cannot swing a GT500. That being said, the package prices are reasonable, but just barely IMHO. Once you begin to add anything else to the base package it adds up quickly.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 05:12 PM

I don't mind if another SGT comes along, just better functional parts is all I ask for(cooling ducts, scoops, brakes,gear ratio, adjustable suspension). I say let the SA brand expand. :peelout:

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 05:27 PM

What would be the market threshold for a Shelby GT from price point? Let's take a dream build of what the Shelby GT was:

Open the enitre color pallett and coupe of convertible configuration:
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  • Track Package (helical 3:73, brembo brake pkg., FR3 suspension, HD radiator, engine oil cooler, 19"x9" aluminum wheels, summer performance compound tires)
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  • Ford Racing front brake cooling ducts
  • Over the top stripes
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  • Shelby lettering on the upper trunk
  • Rocker stripe
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  • Shelby badging and CSM as was the SGT
  • Painted stripes as an option
What would you expect to pay for the package excluding the Track Package?

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:13 PM

How many more variations of the same car are you thinking of making? What was the point of the GTS, the SA and the GT350? They all ended up being practically the same car at different price points. Another Shelby GT dilutes the uniqueness and exclusivity of the car I bought for many reasons. No, I did not buy it for resale value! If you want to know what I would pay for a "new" Shelby GT, nothing.


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Posted 05 May 2012 - 07:30 AM

Remember in 07 how everyone complained that the upfit from SA was too much cash?

Still funny to me...anyways why not just use the same pricing strategy adjusted for increased costs 5 years later?

And what is wrong with the GTS, I am a little confused?

Or are you thinking 5,000 cars agin out in the desert straight from the rails?

I thought that from a sales standpoint the 07-08 SGT's fell short of expectations?

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 07:53 AM

What would be the market threshold for a Shelby GT from price point? Let's take a dream build of what the Shelby GT was:

Open the enitre color pallett and coupe of convertible configuration:

  • Base 2013 5.0 GT 400 A package
  • Track Package (helical 3:73, brembo brake pkg., FR3 suspension, HD radiator, engine oil cooler, 19"x9" aluminum wheels, summer performance compound tires)
  • Short throw shifter
  • Billet grille
  • CS rear fascia/front fascia
  • Ford Racing performance exhaust
  • Adjustable panhard bar
  • Ford Racing front brake cooling ducts
  • Over the top stripes
  • Rear spoiler delete
  • Shelby lettering on the upper trunk
  • Rocker stripe
  • Cold air kit with tune
  • Shelby badging and CSM as was the SGT
  • Painted stripes as an option
What would you expect to pay for the package excluding the Track Package?

Roger


I would consider a buy if all that was wrong with the 07/08 SGT was fixed - scoop, stripes, power, price point, etc. Maybe some special deal for current owners as well?

To me, I think the SGT was a bit of a lame duck, which in some respects is good, (you start the mods, we finish to our tastes), but in other respects was bad, (no real recognition - like the GT500).

We all know what we bought initially and what mods we've done to our SGTs since purchasing, and it sounds like that's where you're going. Find out what we've done or are doing and create a new, out-the-door, version of the SGT with the popular/best aftermarket mods already in place.

As far as price, it has to fall squarely between the GT500 and a high-end standard GT. I'm thinking that's Boss 302 territory, i.e., Laguna Seca with a Shelby twist.

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