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#31 OFFLINE   NordicShelby

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 04:48 AM

I love how people love to get on here and can't wait to tell others their wrong. Even when that person says they are not 100% sure and that he bought it as is. As for being an aftermarket hood, if the SS hood from Shelby is after market and not the real thing, then I guess so.... I did not ASSUME anything, it was what I was told by people on this very site... Damn, really sad when others look to show someone up when they only read part of a post, or ASSUME certain things that just aren't true or what that person is trying to say...


Most of us come on here to learn and want accurate information. If someone posts something that is inaccurate thats not very helpful or postive to the forum.

If you have a REAL SS hood on your SGT than you are the only one I know of that has a SS hood on a SGT. Now you have me extremely interested.......could you post a picture of the Shelby SS hood on your SGT?

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 09:30 AM

Removed hood insulation because it rubbed.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 10:40 AM

When you say lowering the engine becomes an expensive proposition...what kind of costs and items are involved in lowering the engine? Sorry if this seems like a novice questions, but if the shoe fits.....?? You can PM me or email if you'd rather not broadcast the info (andy@andyjabaley.com).

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I have read, and I will try to find where, that you will need a new cross-member (i think) and motor-mounts (trans included) to drop the engine far enough to be able to use the stock strut brace. Of course the issue was then brought up about disrupting the pinion angle once you drop the engine... and so on. Like Peter has said... this is what I was told by people on here. Since I can't verify it right now, I don't want to be held accountable.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 10:44 AM

here's what I found in another thread

Far enough to re-install the strut tower brace?


From what I've found, you need motor mounts AND k-member spacers to accomplish that Posted Image


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Posted 16 July 2012 - 11:05 AM

My post was not first hand knowledge, but I remember talking to people that had it done and I think I spoke with someone at tasca that told me how they've done it.

I don't like the idea of messing with the suspension and driveline geometry for what to me is a cosmetic issue since most people aren't going to notice the difference of having a brace vs not having it.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 03:08 AM

My post was not first hand knowledge, but I remember talking to people that had it done and I think I spoke with someone at tasca that told me how they've done it. I don't like the idea of messing with the suspension and driveline geometry for what to me is a cosmetic issue since most people aren't going to notice the difference of having a brace vs not having it.

I'm sorry Jason I should have removed all the quotes... my bad! But I'm pretty sure this holds true. And for the record I agree with ya, you're just asking for trouble when you start moving stuff around like that. They have tested the cars with a professional driver both with and without the strut brace and there was no noticable difference. When Ford made these cars they knew it was going to be driven hard so they beefed up the welds and double checked everything. In my opinion the brace really isn't necessary, but it does look good!

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 08:12 PM

just beat on it and have some fun! Stickers are for little girls LOL

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 08:13 PM

i put a whipple 550 kit on mine was thinking i would like the gt/sc decals but i think that would be false advertising. Just consider your self lucky you have a sweet ride, go out and enjoy it! Who cares about the stickers. Just my opinion though

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 03:58 PM

Sheby GT/SC side stripes are for little girls? Is that because you dont have them or your car is a GT/SC clone or tribute? Either way.....not a well thought out statement.
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 06:24 PM

It's probably because the stickers don't actually make the car any better.
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Posted 13 August 2012 - 09:10 PM

Sheby GT/SC side stripes are for little girls? Is that because you dont have them or your car is a GT/SC clone or tribute? Either way.....not a well thought out statement.


Dave, Jon's just having fun and lightening the mood. He's a great guy with a great car. His car's dialed and very well-built, and he's invested plenty of cash to buy all the good stuff and installed it all himself. We've hoisted many a beer together, and I promise he's one of the good guys. Watch out, if you meet him some day, you'll like him!

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As for the stickers making the car better, well, they are just stickers. But I really like them, and they do denote a car with a bit more Shelby history. I don't regret it for a second. It cost more, but since I used MY money, I figured no one else would mind.



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Posted 14 August 2012 - 03:41 AM

As for the stickers making the car better, well, they are just stickers. But I really like them, and they do denote a car with a bit more Shelby history. I don't regret it for a second. It cost more, but since I used MY money, I figured no one else would mind.



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+1 Jer. Well said

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 08:02 PM

  • My GT-H had the SC installed at SAI. I chose not to put the SC designation on. To that end, I think it is preference. Nice to have options. :)

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 03:10 AM

Reading through this thread prompts a question from me. I had my SC upgrade done at TASCA. They took off the strut brace, which I am fine with. They left the under hood insulation on. Some are talking about their insulation being removed. Which is correct? Does the Whipple manual state that it should be removed?
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Posted 16 August 2012 - 06:26 PM

SAI left my insulation on and it is still there.
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Posted 17 August 2012 - 04:57 AM

Take a look in your manual and you will see they recommend removing it.

I don't need to trap anymore heat when on the track so I ripped mine out.

SA should remove them but I am sure they dont want a bunch on hood insalations laying around that they never could sell.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:00 AM

Good choice nordic,a Shelby GT convert is nothing to be ashamed of in its own right and are AWESOME cars.
I have found "some" owners of non authentic GT/SC cars who brand them as a GT/SC get very angry at those who have them. It might be because after all they spent on the SC dealer install or did it them selves (I am talking a Whipple 550 here) they could have added another couple $grand$ (approximately) and have had an authentic Shelby Registered GT/SC. So that being said...a Shelby GT convert is nothing to be ashamed of in its own right and are AWESOME cars.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:03 AM

JMN444 - Is your car an authentic GT/SC or did you do it yourself? Either way is good, but read my last post that is why I am asking.
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 09:07 AM

"PS, Enjoy the car and whipping up on the GT500's which we are faster than..."

Not so fast. They are almost equal based on my research...and that's with a bone stock GT500. Upgrade as much as a shorty antenna and you will see the rear view of a GT500, let alone the 2010+ models!

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0 to 60 mph: 4.6 seconds
1/4 Mile Time: 13.0 seconds

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 10:53 AM

JMN444 - Is your car an authentic GT/SC or did you do it yourself? Either way is good, but read my last post that is why I am asking.
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It's not a fake or real GT/SC at all... I don't have the stickers. It's simply a SGT with a Whipple. Explain exactly why you are asking though, because we've been over this before.


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Posted 31 August 2012 - 10:55 AM

"PS, Enjoy the car and whipping up on the GT500's which we are faster than..."

Not so fast. They are almost equal based on my research...and that's with a bone stock GT500. Upgrade as much as a shorty antenna and you will see the rear view of a GT500, let alone the 2010+ models!

2008 GT500 (stock)

0 to 60 mph: 4.5 seconds
1/4 Mile Time: 12.9 seconds

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0 to 60 mph: 4.6 seconds
1/4 Mile Time: 13.0 seconds


This doesn't make sense to me, my car dyno'd at 519 (at the wheels) and is a few hundred lbs lighter than a 500hp (at the crank) stock gt500. Is this assuming stock rubber or something?
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 11:10 AM

Sshhhhh.......
Them GT500 boys don't want to know the truth.......
So I don't tell them.......
Let's just keep it between us. :)
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 11:12 AM

Hahahhaha! They can always feel good about the fact their engines aren't on the verge of blowing up at least!
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 11:53 AM

That's it. The 4.6 with a 550 Whipple is as far as we want to take it. The 5.4 or 5.8 can do a lot more if they are worked on. My complaint about my '08 GT500 was the front end was just too heavy with that cast iron block. I guess the newer ones with aluminum blocks are better. But I prefer the '05 -'09 styling.
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 12:22 PM

those figures were from motor trend and car & driver magazine and were stock vehicles from shelby american (GT/SC) and ford (GT500). of course, my GT500 isn't "stock" so it's a moot point, but i agree in that i prefer the looks of the '05-'09 cars, regardless of the weight distribution of the GT500. if i wanted a light front end, i'd buy a miata. everybody blasts the iron block 5.4, for its weight, but i doubt it's any heavier than a contemporary hemi or chevy performance engine. moreover, if i had to put my money on the longevity of an iron versus aluminum block (particularly with forced induction heat cycles), i'd go iron all day long.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 02:44 PM

It's not a fake or real GT/SC at all... I don't have the stickers. It's simply a SGT with a Whipple. Explain exactly why you are asking though, because we've been over this before.


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Posted 31 August 2012 - 04:39 PM

Good choice nordic,a Shelby GT convert is nothing to be ashamed of in its own right and are AWESOME cars.
I have found "some" owners of non authentic GT/SC cars who brand them as a GT/SC get very angry at those who have them. It might be because after all they spent on the SC dealer install or did it them selves (I am talking a Whipple 550 here) they could have added another couple $grand$ (approximately) and have had an authentic Shelby Registered GT/SC. So that being said...a Shelby GT convert is nothing to be ashamed of in its own right and are AWESOME cars.

PS: I love your car!!

JMN444 - Is your car an authentic GT/SC or did you do it yourself? Either way is good, but read my last post that is why I am asking.
In good health my friend!

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jmn444 - Did I say "fake" anywhere in my post? That is a big no. I said "authentic" that means a genuine production model based on Shelby Americans GT/SC registration certification which includeds but is not limited to installation at the Shelby American Plant in Las Vegas or an Authorized Mod Shop. So I was asking is your car a Shelby American registry certified GT/SC? Thats all. (just trying to keep track of authentic GT/SC's)


Doesn't sound like that's what you were doing at all.
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Posted 02 September 2012 - 07:34 AM

Come on, they all are fake as the SGT and GT-H did not come with a SC. OK, just having fun. :) see my post 112 in http://www.teamshelb...you-see-a-fake/

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 09:21 AM

Doesn't sound like that's what you were doing at all.


Doesn't sound like that is what your doing either. If you don't want to answer, we'll just assume you did it yourself or had the dealer so it which is a great accomplishment for these cars in either respect. I love the SC'd cars, I am just trying to keep track of authentic GT/SC's as there are not many of them out there. So you can look at it anyway you wish, but this has been done by several people and is a tedious job! If you have a better way of tracking these cars I would like to hear it.
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Posted 03 September 2012 - 09:44 AM

I'm sure this will break the TOS or whatever, but swede you are possibly the biggest douche I've "spoken" with on the Internet to date.

Of course it doesn't sound like I'm tracking official gt/sc cars BECAUSE I DIDNT CLAIM THAT'S WHAT I WAS DOING. Read your own posts.

Leave the registry to the company that built the cars. Who the hell is gonna rely on your "records" in 40 years anyway? Do you think that your grand kid is going to take your authentic gt/sc to auction along with your excel spreadsheet and that's gonna add any value? Maybe a printout of all the years bitching about how underpowered the car was and how they botched your dyno report when you finally did something about it and how you then couldn't sell it would boost the value?

I'll just stick with driving the shit out of mine and getting my return on investment thru enjoying my commute to work every day.
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