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#41 OFFLINE   Grabber

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 07:30 PM

These Videos may help you and your friend pull the tranny and install it. You need to slightly jack the front of the motor to get a slight angle on the tranny to get it out. It is a tight fit. The tranny also has to roll to the right before it will come out. These vids were shot by me a couple few years ago when Dan did my first clutch.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 07:30 PM

....the rest of the vids:

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 07:37 PM

Sorry the videos are posted in the wrong sequence. But all the info is there. Just start watching the last one first and work your way up from there.
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Posted 14 August 2012 - 11:57 AM

Wow Grabber, you're a good man.  I viewed them all in order and it brought back memories.  Let me clarify, Jeff is a friend and the owner of a successful automotive repair business.  Our only problem is that he's eligible for social security but continues to work.  Different generation, different times.  If he's too busy or too tired, I'll understand and eventually find a quality guy.  Not too worried with my circle of friends.  Thank you for everything.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:49 AM

Has anyone be told that the CR3Z7B546A Clutch is now only a single disc vs a twin disc?

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 08:35 AM

View PostGrabber, on 13 August 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

Sorry the videos are posted in the wrong sequence. But all the info is there. Just start watching the last one first and work your way up from there.
grabber again your extra effort in contributing to our knowledge of our cars is highly appreciated. Thanks so much.
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 11:08 AM

View Post1NCBTN, on 24 August 2012 - 04:49 AM, said:

Has anyone be told that the CR3Z7B546A Clutch is now only a single disc vs a twin disc?

There is 2 disc's in there. Take a look.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 11:19 AM

View PostGrabber, on 13 August 2012 - 07:30 PM, said:

These Videos may help you and your friend pull the tranny and install it. You need to slightly jack the front of the motor to get a slight angle on the tranny to get it out. It is a tight fit. The tranny also has to roll to the right before it will come out.

I did the 1st one this way and it does work..... but I found on the next two.. if you lower the k member...removing the rear most bolts (one per side) and loosen the rest of the fasteners as much as possible... the transmission will come out much easier.

It literally takes an extra 5-10 min to loosen or remove those fasteners, and saves a lot of twist, turn, and hassle in removing the transmission.

To each his own, that’s what I found works better for me.

Edited by E.Marquez, 24 August 2012 - 11:22 AM.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 12:26 PM

How much does the transmission weigh?
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 03:07 PM

View PostSnoopy49, on 24 August 2012 - 12:26 PM, said:

How much does the transmission weigh?

125 or so.. I can put on and off the lift tranny jack from floor to jack.. So it's not too bad.

Edited by E.Marquez, 24 August 2012 - 03:08 PM.

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 03:37 PM

Thanks,

Delaer said they taked to Ford tech support and it was only a single disk.

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 07:28 PM

View Post1NCBTN, on 26 August 2012 - 03:37 PM, said:

Thanks,

Delaer said they taked to Ford tech support and it was only a single disk.

GT's are single. GT500's are double.

That's a fact.
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 03:21 AM

This thread is a wealth of knowledge - thank you Grabber, and everyone else who has contributed.
I ordered all the parts from Tasca.
They were great to deal with, had everything in stock, shipped the very same day and I had them in two days.
I know what I am doing this Saturday!
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 06:19 AM

View Postcstunkard, on 05 October 2012 - 03:21 AM, said:

This thread is a wealth of knowledge - thank you Grabber, and everyone else who has contributed.
I ordered all the parts from Tasca.
They were great to deal with, had everything in stock, shipped the very same day and I had them in two days.
I know what I am doing this Saturday!

So you are installing it yourself ?
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 11:24 AM

View PostGrabber, on 24 July 2012 - 06:26 PM, said:

Clutch Drag TSB 10-3-8 (4th revision 2010 clutch set up)  - Prices for labor and materials if you have to pay for it.

This post is to help those that are out of warranty and want to get the 2010 clutch TSB done on their car. The parts listed below are the latest part numbers that are currently being installed on cars under warranty. In fact my wife just had all this work done on her 2009 Shelby GT500 and it drives great now. The clutch is very smooth and every take off is perfect for her. Personally I like the way this set up drives and operates and will be having it installed on my car by the Senior Master Tech at my ford dealership. After Driving my wifes car…..I gotta have it. It’s that nice !
I have found that Tasca Ford has the parts for the best price. They offer the parts for $303 cheaper than most ford parts stores. The shipping is about $50 bucks to get all the parts delivered.  Below are Tasca Fords prices. A dealer should charge you no more than 5.1 hours to install all these parts.
If you have not modified your car past a Pulley and a Cold air Intake, this system will last along time in your car. Please do not turn this thread into a Clutch bashing thread on the Ford system. I am quite aware that the after market clutch systems are more suited for cars that have bigger Super Chargers.
Tasca Ford’s Parts phone number: 1-800-915-3141

CLUTCH ASY - $495.99
Part #: CR3Z7B546A
Pack Qty:
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FLYWHEEL ASY - $167.38
Part #: AR3Z6375A
Pack Qty: 1


SLEEVE (pilot bearing) - $8.71
Part #: F6ZZ7600A
Pack Qty: 1


CYLINDER ASY - CLUTCH SLAVE - $165.33
Part #: DR3Z-7A508-A   (was part# AR3Z7A508A)
Pack Qty: 1
  
  
BOLT - $2.01 each x 6 = $12.06
Part #: N808969S100
Pack Qty: 6 bolts needed


LUBRICANT – TEFLON - $6.35
Part #: XG8
Pack Qty: 1
  

TUBE (hydrolic clutch line) - $53.23
Part #: AR3Z7A512A
Pack Qty: 1

FLUID – BRAKE - $3.16
Part #: PM1C
Pack Qty: 1
  
  
BOLT - HEX.HEAD - $2.45 x 8 = $19.60
Part #: F6ZZ6379AA
Pack Qty:  8 bolts needed


Total = $931.81 Tasca Ford price ($303.02 savings)

Ford price = $1,234.83

Labor books out at 5.1 hours at $99.29 per hour = $506.37

Labor and materials = $1,438.18 for the total job.
Are you saying the TSB work we all had done back in 2008-2009 is the same clutch that was originally installed?  Because I can honestly say the chatter did not disappear.  Makes me wonder why I did the TSB in the first place......
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 12:31 PM

View PostSNKBITE, on 05 October 2012 - 11:24 AM, said:

Are you saying the TSB work we all had done back in 2008-2009 is the same clutch that was originally installed?  Because I can honestly say the chatter did not disappear.  Makes me wonder why I did the TSB in the first place......

Yes that is true it was the same clutch the only thing different on it was the splines on the center of the unit were made out of nickle instead of steel to prevent corrosion. The main reason for the TSB back then was to change the flywheel out.

The new TSB finally fixs the chatter problem.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 05:35 AM

View PostGrabber, on 05 October 2012 - 06:19 AM, said:

So you are installing it yourself ?

Yep!  I also watch the video you posted which was very helpful… it is so tight up there that the slight rotation of the transmission noted in the video was the key!

Total install took about 9 hours, a little slow I admit, but wow, what a difference in how the car drives!  The clutch is so much smoother and quieter!
Now the hard part…I understand I have to play nice in it for a 500 mile break-in period!     :burnout:
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:10 AM

View Postcstunkard, on 07 October 2012 - 05:35 AM, said:

Yep!  I also watch the video you posted which was very helpful… it is so tight up there that the slight rotation of the transmission noted in the video was the key!

Total install took about 9 hours, a little slow I admit, but wow, what a difference in how the car drives!  The clutch is so much smoother and quieter!
Now the hard part…I understand I have to play nice in it for a 500 mile break-in period! :burnout:

I'm glad to hear that your installation went well. Not many can do that job their selves. A top notch Ford Master Tech does the entire job in 5 hours including the 30 minute clutch bleed, test drive and closing paperwork. I have watched my transmission go in and out of my car every time and I find the entire process very interesting. While you tranny was out, did you happen to put in the Royal Purple syncromesh full synthetic fluid ? it makes a noticeable difference in the smoothness of the shifts.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:09 AM

View PostGrabber, on 07 October 2012 - 07:10 AM, said:

I'm glad to hear that your installation went well. Not many can do that job their selves. A top notch Ford Master Tech does the entire job in 5 hours including the 30 minute clutch bleed, test drive and closing paperwork. I have watched my transmission go in and out of my car every time and I find the entire process very interesting. While you tranny was out, did you happen to put in the Royal Purple syncromesh full synthetic fluid ? it makes a noticeable difference in the smoothness of the shifts.

Yep, I did the Royal Purple too… figured while the trans was out no better time.
The one thing that seemed odd to me was the new TUBE (hydraulic clutch line); I used it because I ordered it and had it, but it seemed exactly the same as the one I took out… it was fun fishing that up through!  

Again let me say thanks for all your efforts of providing the information, greatly appreciated!
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IW 10% lower
Barton Shifter with Hurst T-Handle
J&M adj. UCA, and adj. Panhard
FRPP Shortys, Axle Backs (1st gen 5GT's), 3:73s, & lowering spings
Dynotech 3.5" 1-Piece Aluminum Driveshaft
Prothane motor mounts, Magnaflow high flow cats & x-pipe
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:18 AM

View Postcstunkard, on 07 October 2012 - 08:09 AM, said:

Yep, I did the Royal Purple too… figured while the trans was out no better time.
The one thing that seemed odd to me was the new TUBE (hydraulic clutch line); I used it because I ordered it and had it, but it seemed exactly the same as the one I took out… it was fun fishing that up through!  

Again let me say thanks for all your efforts of providing the information, greatly appreciated!

I read on another forum that a member checked the inside diameter of the new hydrolic line and that it is a little bit bigger to allow for more flow. So it's good that you changed it. To the eye you can not tell, but if you checked it....it is a bit bigger.
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