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#1 OFFLINE   twobjshelbys

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 12:10 PM

Smaller engines and IRS

http://www.stangtv.c...r-2015-mustang/
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 01:10 PM

Another good reason for us to hang onto our cars. Can't wait to see what the Mustang tuners like Shelby, Roush, Saleen, etc. are able to do with the new platform.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 01:40 PM

What ever the car will be, I will try to embrace the new Mustang. I just hope they do it right. I will definitely have a 2015 Ecoboost daily driver in my garage. However my GT-H will never go anywhere and I probably see a 2013/14 GT500 in the future, or a 13/14 Boss. I think that will probably be the best muscle car out there, which will probably not survive in 2015. I'm sure it will be a nice car, but certainly going to be a large departure from the 2014. But we've all known this is coming. I'm sure the 5.0 will survive as an option. That would absolutely destroy any future of the Mustang if they took the V8 away.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 04:29 PM

I believe the article said a V8 was in the mix. With that the tuning wizards can perform their magic and still live up to the muscle car crowd. I hope they keep the overall weight of the car down.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 04:39 PM

I believe the article said a V8 was in the mix. With that the tuning wizards can perform their magic and still live up to the muscle car crowd. I hope they keep the overall weight of the car down.


The article speculated that Ford would be foolish to eliminate it and predicted they wouldn't, but also mentioned the Mustang II as being a successful car.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 04:55 PM

The article speculated that Ford would be foolish to eliminate it and predicted they wouldn't, but also mentioned the Mustang II as being a successful car.

that much we already know. any "new news"?
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 05:44 PM

Yep it's going to be the new Mustang GT-R............ :barf:
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:11 PM

Well, this sure is a twist. Then again, the technology is undisputed improving. Here's to hope. :beerchug:

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:51 PM

Whatever happens I am excited .
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 11:43 PM

I know it won't really matter, for this was made only to vent, but I just typed an e-mail to Ford stating how this euro idea and design sucks! I also stated that my loyalty to Ford will end. However, I will always show loyalty to the present and past, but not the future of Ford!

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 12:08 PM

Well with the new CAFE standards being pushed through as released today, it is inevitable that the reasonably inexpensive power of today will be diminished. The 70's are comming back. Now it will not be as bad as I think technology will continue at a rapid pace helping to reach these goals in milleage and still have decent power, but cars like the 2013 GT500 with over 600hp will not be widely available. I think they will still be available, but in order to produce fewer to keep the over all ratings up, they will get more and more expensive, only allowing for a more elite crowd to purchase. This is not a political statement, but just a fact of where the CAFE standards are going. Increase of 5% annually to get to 54.5 mpg average by 2025, that's going to be interesting. If my 2015 ecoboost Mustang get's mpg in the 30's with close to 300hp, that should make a nice daily driver. Interesting:

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 12:48 PM

I have an Ecoboost engine in my MKS. I really like it. I think it represents a great transitional strategy to smaller displacement engines. I cant wait to see the finished product. In the mean time I will hold on to my 2007s which I love...

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 01:15 PM

It frustrates me that Congress can find the time to pass laws to regulate folks but they can't find the time to pass a constitutionally mandated budget. :confused:
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Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:34 PM

I hope that they're not going down the same road paved by the Probe...
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 08:27 PM

If it doesnt have a V8, just get a Toyota Corolla and end the drama already.
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 03:41 AM

It's very unlikely that the V8 or performance for that matter will be forgotten in '15. However, from the speculation Ford may have kill the Mustang's appearance for the US Market, possibly even the Euro market. It sounds as if Ford is forgetting about the one thing that would make the Mustang desirable in all markets, and that is 'American Styling'. Ford can make the Mustang smaller and use a common platform but if it's appearance (and performance) do not scream 'Mustang' then Ford will have failed. Ford tested the waters with the Probe, which wasn't a bad car, but it clearly wasn't a Mustang.
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 06:54 AM

It sounds as if Ford is forgetting about the one thing that would make the Mustang desirable in all markets, and that is 'American Styling'. Ford can make the Mustang smaller and use a common platform but if it's appearance (and performance) do not scream 'Mustang' then Ford will have failed. Ford tested the waters with the Probe, which wasn't a bad car, but it clearly wasn't a Mustang.


+1. This is exactly how I see it also.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 05:34 PM

It's very unlikely that the V8 or performance for that matter will be forgotten in '15. However, from the speculation Ford may have kill the Mustang's appearance for the US Market, possibly even the Euro market. It sounds as if Ford is forgetting about the one thing that would make the Mustang desirable in all markets, and that is 'American Styling'. Ford can make the Mustang smaller and use a common platform but if it's appearance (and performance) do not scream 'Mustang' then Ford will have failed. Ford tested the waters with the Probe, which wasn't a bad car, but it clearly wasn't a Mustang.


I look at it as a Mustang in name only. Ford will make some sales based upon the name while it tries to get a better foot in the overseas market. Consolidation of platforms only means that things will be better tested and more finely tuned. ... IMHO.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 05:43 PM

So I just posted to wait to see what others said.

How do you spell M-u-s-t-a-n-g I-I ????

I hope they continue the high end, but I fear the new emissions and mileage requirements will spell the 2015 version of the 70's collapse of high performance vehicles. Look for a 45 (not 55) MPH speed limit. The tree huggers simply don't want cars.
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Posted 03 September 2012 - 06:01 PM

Interesting article from another perspective

http://www.stangtv.c...o-generation-y/
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Posted 03 September 2012 - 07:05 PM

I can't agree with this enough. I am 19, more interested in chemistry than engineering, aiming for veterinary degree not a mechanic degree, and I cannot stand foreign garbage. Sure, I could throw Toyota in here and begin a 10 million point list why I hate Toyota more than anything in life for the lies they push, the crap they get away with within import laws, and their horribly designed prius, which screams the Japanese vision: cutting the corner.
The American people have been poisoned with the thought of government hate, the idea that domestic workers have no passion or mentality such as workers from other countries.

Plain and simple, from the average guy or girl in a high school Japanese class watching anime and devoting their life to Japan, to the classic non-car-caring person who understands that anything from Germany or Italy is for sophisticated people who are above domestic products. America has become this mindless persons' who believe that the rest of the world is far ahead of us in technology and engineering. Other countries have many other takes on technology, which leads to an undetermined winner in the battle for 'most evolved technology'. However, it is the engineering outside of our country that does not hold up to ours; no, it has not always been that way. But, there is no reason to believe foreign cars are better, just because of social media. This is the kind of manipulation that causes companies like GM and Chrysler to fail, having been betrayed by their own people for junk Honda's and garbage Kia's. This is why there is a bad picture painted of the American automaker, because people fight over the quality of it's own people and the misuse of unions.

So how does this come back to the Mustang? Simple. Ford has no choice but to appeal to the rest of the world, since to the typical American who rejects modern engineering and chemistry, whatever other countries like they will follow. Thus, the Mustang is all over the place right now, because to most people "the good days of muscle are gone, and America is not as smart as Europeans or Asians".

Dead on.....now I feel a bit better.

Edit: Though I should point out that I am not saying foreign cars cannot be impressive or appealing; I'm stating that there is no reason that they should be considered better than our products at current time; hopefully, it will stay that way. I'm sure it will go around a few times, but not today.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 11:09 PM

Interesting article from another perspective

http://www.stangtv.c...o-generation-y/


Whomever wrote that article I'd personally like to slap him upside his head! If I wanted a freaking rice rocket with some turbo charged 4 or 6 banger I would have bought one!

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 04:57 AM

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 06:49 AM

It's very unlikely that the V8 or performance for that matter will be forgotten in '15. However, from the speculation Ford may have kill the Mustang's appearance for the US Market, possibly even the Euro market. It sounds as if Ford is forgetting about the one thing that would make the Mustang desirable in all markets, and that is 'American Styling'. Ford can make the Mustang smaller and use a common platform but if it's appearance (and performance) do not scream 'Mustang' then Ford will have failed. Ford tested the waters with the Probe, which wasn't a bad car, but it clearly wasn't a Mustang.


I really don't think they are going to change it so radically. I bet you this is what happens. The tail lights DON'T CHANGE. The front end will change. New headlights fogs grills etc. The hood will change. The rear diffuser. bumper, spoiler will change. Maybe the mirrors will change and thats it. They may do some stuff on the inside to shed 100 pounds too. But I doubt the body panels will accomplish that it will probably be due to other pieces like on the 13 carbon fiber drive shaft.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 06:52 AM

I can't agree with this enough. I am 19, more interested in chemistry than engineering, aiming for veterinary degree not a mechanic degree, and I cannot stand foreign garbage. Sure, I could throw Toyota in here and begin a 10 million point list why I hate Toyota more than anything in life for the lies they push, the crap they get away with within import laws, and their horribly designed prius, which screams the Japanese vision: cutting the corner.
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So how does this come back to the Mustang? Simple. Ford has no choice but to appeal to the rest of the world, since to the typical American who rejects modern engineering and chemistry, whatever other countries like they will follow. Thus, the Mustang is all over the place right now, because to most people "the good days of muscle are gone, and America is not as smart as Europeans or Asians".

Dead on.....now I feel a bit better.

Edit: Though I should point out that I am not saying foreign cars cannot be impressive or appealing; I'm stating that there is no reason that they should be considered better than our products at current time; hopefully, it will stay that way. I'm sure it will go around a few times, but not today.


I think the only car you could say we as America did better than foreign cars costing twice as much inside and out is the new viper. Ford needs to make a car to compete with the viper for the same price. That is the only one. As amazing tech and performance on the outside of the car and has ferrari/bentley interior on the inside with the latest tech for nav and all other gismos you could imagine. And its only around 120k I believe?

Why anyone would buy a zr1 or porsche over that is beyond me.

Edited by svt13, 04 September 2012 - 06:53 AM.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 05:59 PM

I think the only car you could say we as America did better than foreign cars costing twice as much inside and out is the new viper. Ford needs to make a car to compete with the viper for the same price. That is the only one. As amazing tech and performance on the outside of the car and has ferrari/bentley interior on the inside with the latest tech for nav and all other gismos you could imagine. And its only around 120k I believe?

Why anyone would buy a zr1 or porsche over that is beyond me.



Ever drive a ZR1 ?...bet not..It's an American super car the can spank most of what European and Jap got to offer..and as far as the new Viper

nice car but the hp and weight are almost identical to the ZR1 so thats going to be a drivers race...
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 07:24 PM

Ever drive a ZR1 ?...bet not..It's an American super car the can spank most of what European and Jap got to offer..and as far as the new Viper

nice car but the hp and weight are almost identical to the ZR1 so thats going to be a drivers race...


ZR1 is just performance no luxury. The interior is dog shit and there is zero tech in it. Besides the MR and PTM. Pshhh. The new viper has every damn electronic tech available today in it and has the same interior as ferrari and bentley all for cheaper than a zr1. Plus the viper has a 49/50 weight distribution ideal for the road course. Idk what the zr1 is but I doubt its that.

Always American supercars have been about compromise while European ones just build amazing cars. Now finally America has its first car that doesn't skimp out on the details.
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Mods:
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nav-tv rear view camera
Red line hood struts
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Super snake carbon fiber splitter
APR Performance carbon fiber mirror assembly
JLT CF resonator delete w/blue airaid Filter
Shelby transmission cooler scoope
BMR UCA with Mount, BMR adjustable panhard bar
Bob's billet LCA and bob's oil separator
FRPP springs
HRE p40 w/Michelin Super sport tires


Future mods going on the car soon: Shelby floor and trunk mat, custom made EPCO shifter knob


Mods undecided about:
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#28 OFFLINE   Helix

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:14 PM

That is probably what it comes down to; not that I have driven the ZR1, or for that matter will drive a Viper, but the Viper does have the tech advantages. However, the Viper is also naturally aspirated. It will be fun to see, but for now those two are on top.
As for super cars, besides the obvious Ford gt that imprinted a legendary lore, SSC, Saleen, and Hennessey American for starters.
Even our favorites! The Cobra and later the Series 1. The Shelby series 1 is incredible, and that is before mods.

Edit: might as well get overzealous while I'm on a role. GT350 and GT500 super snake. I don't see a reason not to toss those in.

Edited by Helix, 04 September 2012 - 08:17 PM.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 03:51 AM

ZR1 is just performance no luxury. The interior is dog shit and there is zero tech in it. Besides the MR and PTM. Pshhh. The new viper has every damn electronic tech available today in it and has the same interior as ferrari and bentley all for cheaper than a zr1. Plus the viper has a 49/50 weight distribution ideal for the road course. Idk what the zr1 is but I doubt its that.

Always American supercars have been about compromise while European ones just build amazing cars. Now finally America has its first car that doesn't skimp out on the details.



Here you go showing your stupidity about cars again...the ZR1 is not meant to be a Luxury car to start off with but if you ever drove one or done a bit

of research you would see that you can put the car in touring mode and it rides as smooth as butter put it in full racing mode and take it to the track

NO TEK??..the 2010 and up has 5 diff modes to fit the ability of the driver...carbon fiber rotors the same system thats on the Enzo Ferrari..the whole

body is made of carbon fiber..a titanium exhust system..go google to see what it does on a track with your famous Jap GT-R and the Porsche GT II

and check and see what Motor Trend done with it in the 1/4 mile when it came out in 09....and you say the int sux..ain't you the one thats going out

and spending $4000 on an int for your GT500 ?..I'm starting to believe what some others are saying on here about your BS posting...the ZR1 is one

of the fastest production cars ever made on road course or drag strip and it's made in AMERICA but your to stupid to realize that...like I said go do

some research and see how much AMERICAN tek there is in that car.
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#30 OFFLINE   svt13

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 04:03 AM

Here you go showing your stupidity about cars again...the ZR1 is not meant to be a Luxury car to start off with but if you ever drove one or done a bit

of research you would see that you can put the car in touring mode and it rides as smooth as butter put it in full racing mode and take it to the track

NO TEK??..the 2010 and up has 5 diff modes to fit the ability of the driver...carbon fiber rotors the same system thats on the Enzo Ferrari..the whole

body is made of carbon fiber..a titanium exhust system..go google to see what it does on a track with your famous Jap GT-R and the Porsche GT II

and check and see what Motor Trend done with it in the 1/4 mile when it came out in 09....and you say the int sux..ain't you the one thats going out

and spending $4000 on an int for your GT500 ?..I'm starting to believe what some others are saying on here about your BS posting...the ZR1 is one

of the fastest production cars ever made on road course or drag strip and it's made in AMERICA but your to stupid to realize that...like I said go do

some research and see how much AMERICAN tek there is in that car.


I have done research and I have driven one. And I'd put it the other way around saying the ferrari enzo has the system that is in the ZR1. Remember GM sold the system to ferrari not the other way around. And the whole ZR1 is not carbon fiber. Just the roof, hood, front splitter, pillars, side skirts extensions, and spoiler. The doors, bumpers, trunk, all of that is made from plastic like the rest of the corvettes.

I wouldn't say the viper was designed to be a luxury cruiser either but the makers still put some bentley quality stuff in there. 2nd the zr1 does NOT have a titanium exhaust. If you know ANYTHING about titanium exhausts you would notice on cars that have them the tips are blue from the titanium oxidizing from the heat. The only stock car I have seen with a titanium exhaust from the factory are the Paganis. Not a lowly zr1 (when compared to a Hyuara or Zonda)

And why would you lump carbon fiber rotors in with technology? I don't understand that one.

And as far as my interior I was debating doing that because I wanted a BETTER interior but still wouldn't dare go far enough to call it luxury. This isn't italian leather I am replacing it with. Though I decided that money could be better off elsewhere.

I never said the zr1 is a bad car. I know full well what motortrend has done with it. I know what it does on the track. I simply said that it is a compromise though which it is.

In summary the ZR1's tech is limited to MR,PTM, and a crap nav. While the viper has state of the art everything else. That is REAL American tech. You do know the viper has 4 modes compared to the ZR1s 5 modes? But there are many configurations with the dynamic traction control and torque vectoring controls on the viper the ZR1 does not have.

Lets not forget that 4 wheel completely independent of each other traction and stability control system the ZR1 does not have.

So before you tell me I'm posting bullshit YOU should get your facts straight about the car you are talking about.

It still stands the ZR1 is a great car but one built on compromises and other models. This has been how America does it even with the FGT though the FT has a way better interior than a ZR1. Truly great cars are built on their own from one vision, and don't have watered down versions of it.

Edited by svt13, 05 September 2012 - 04:07 AM.

2013 shelby gt500 black w/black stripe SVTPP,Recaros,Electronics Package,Glass roof,car cover.

Mods:
35% window tint

nav-tv rear view camera
Red line hood struts
Front splitter curb alert system
Super snake carbon fiber splitter
APR Performance carbon fiber mirror assembly
JLT CF resonator delete w/blue airaid Filter
Shelby transmission cooler scoope
BMR UCA with Mount, BMR adjustable panhard bar
Bob's billet LCA and bob's oil separator
FRPP springs
HRE p40 w/Michelin Super sport tires


Future mods going on the car soon: Shelby floor and trunk mat, custom made EPCO shifter knob


Mods undecided about:
Boss x brace, MGW shifter, Boss side exhaust, Corsa black diamond axleback, Lithium battery




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