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[svt13]

roger-SAI, on 25 September 2012 - 07:52 PM, said:

The rep from C&R was at Shelby last Monday and they were discussing the installation of the tanks but I was not in on the conversation directly. I will need to find out and get back on that one.

The temps on the engine were done with insturmenation sensors we utilize through the laptop during our testing sessions prior to installation of the parts in like conditions we do data log all our testing sessions.

Hear you on pricing but we are also subject to supplier and economic inflations also. Would make it quite the package at your numbers though.

It would. At 20k I would do it in a heart beat. I'm sure many other people would as well. I think the extra super snakes you would make at the lower price would offset your cost.

So then the supersnake H/E is the same one on the shelby 1000 that is for sale right now on SPP? But then the radiator is the same on as before?

But let me know about the coolant tanks because I wanted to order them till Van told me they wouldn't fit.

So what is the evidence for brakes being better than the new 13 brakes?

[RogerS]

Heat exchanger is a yes, radiator is a yes. We have another prototype we are working with that has not been converted at all. Testing is a comparison of the stock braking on the 13 vs. the Shelby 1000. Not really an exact comparison but data collection between both. Don't know the final result. I am on a short leave after a family member passed. Will get back when I return to Vegas.

Roger

[svt13]

roger-SAI, on 26 September 2012 - 03:26 AM, said:

Heat exchanger is a yes, radiator is a yes. We have another prototype we are working with that has not been converted at all. Testing is a comparison of the stock braking on the 13 vs. the Shelby 1000. Not really an exact comparison but data collection between both. Don't know the final result. I am on a short leave after a family member passed. Will get back when I return to Vegas.

Roger

Sorry for your loss and thank you I look foward to seeing the information.

[2010KonaBlueGT]

roger-SAI, on 25 September 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

Re: New HE vs. Old HE

The product has evolved into Shelby American working with C&R on the increased cooling need for the Shelby 1000 application. While the radiator and tanks are similar the heat exchanger is a custom unit built to Shelby specifications after our R&D with Carroll over a 14 month timeframe. There are real documented results that this system increases cooling efficiency on the new 5.8L engines in both stock and modified configurations.

Roger,

What is the difference between the two heat exchangers? When the new one was first announced I asked Robert and told him that the pics on your SPP site show identical heat exchangers. He said he'd find out and never got back to us.

Can you tell us?


TIA,
Phill

[RogerS]

Phil,

It is size, capacity and fan size and draw. The HE is almost the frontal size of a standard radiator in most cars. I will need to follow up when I return to Vegas for exact specs.

Roger

[MY500SS]

Roger, I'm so sorry to hear about the loss of a family member.  My deepest condolences to you and your family.

[2010KonaBlueGT]

roger-SAI, on 26 September 2012 - 12:22 PM, said:

Phil,
It is size, capacity and fan size and draw. The HE is almost the frontal size of a standard radiator in most cars. I will need to follow up when I return to Vegas for exact specs.
Roger

Thank you Roger.

Take care of family before you take care of business!

Business comes and goes. Family is forever....



My condolences on your loss,

Phill

Edited by 2010KonaBlueGT, 27 September 2012 - 09:45 AM.

[svt13]

2010KonaBlueGT, on 26 September 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:

Thank you Roger.

Take care of family before you take care of business!

Business comes and goes. Family if forever....



My condolences on your loss,

Phill

+100000000

Edited by svt13, 26 September 2012 - 03:50 PM.

[jesselm]

roger-SAI, on 25 September 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

The performance version will include the Shelby/Ford Racing Whipple 4.0 L supercharger which will make 850 + HP for those who need it. This product is currently in development for Shelby American’s application.

Roger


3.6L or 4.0L??

I've now seen the 3.6L supercharger listed as an option for the '13 SS, AND the above mentioned 4.0L.  I'd love to know which size will actually be available for the '13 SS...     A 5.8L + 4.0L =
Jesse

Edited by jesselm, 25 October 2012 - 11:33 AM.

[RogerS]

jesselm, on 25 October 2012 - 10:28 AM, said:

3.6 Kenne Bell and 4.0 for the Ford Racing Whipple.

Roger

[Mr. Haney]

roger-SAI, on 05 November 2012 - 02:44 PM, said:

3.6 Kenne Bell and 4.0 for the Ford Racing Whipple.

Roger

Of these two superchargers, which is the most efficient? Why do you offer two for the same Hp upgrade of the engine? Does one leave addition room for future engine modifications with higher Hp levels, that the other one doesn't?

[Gary L Patterson]

I like all performance cars and own several.  I think the 13' Super Snake is a great value and here is why:

You get a unique very limited production car that performs at an exceptional level.  The base model doesn't include the SC upgrade but does address the brakes (all 4 corners) and cooling system that all of the buff books complain about on the standard car.  The rear large caliper brakes and cooliing system were not part of the package on the older cars.  It also gets you in at a slightly lower cost.  The big power option is a personal choice and it is more expensive.  Recent examples of Super Snakes have done well on the resale market retaining thier additonal investment value over the base car.

We have the advantage of history (factual data) of both the older cars and the recent re-sale history on the new ones.  Let's take a couple examples:

You buy a GT500, you modify it.....it looks and runs great to your taste.....and on the resale market you get very little of your additonal investment back compared to a regular GT500.

You buy a GT500, you send it to Shelby and add the Super Snake package.  It is instantly recognizable as a Super Snake, which is viewed as a truly special limited production Shelby.  It drives and performs at a phenominal level.  On the resale market you will likely get all of your investment value back for the upgrades that you put into it.

You bought a hi po 289 Fast back in 65'.  You bought most of the parts to make it look and perform like a Shelby and saved a few bucks doing it.......after all a Shelby was over twice the price of a Mustang.  Today that pristine car is worth about $50K.

You bought a 65' GT350 Shelby and paid more than your neighbor did for his new Caddy or Corvette.  It performed similar to your other neighbor who bought a 65' hi po and made a clone....... and on the resale market today a pristine example is worth $250K++.

You bought a ZR-1 in 1991 and paid $67K sticker for the car.  Compared to other cars of it's time period it performed at a phenominal level and you bought it for sticker when the prior year people were paying $30K over.  Today a pristine example is $25K.....drivers are about $17K.  The car looks very similar to other Corvettes of the same time period unless you look under the hood.....still very cool.

You by a new ZR1 today.  It runs and performs at a phenominal level.  You pay $115K for it new and sell it in two years and take a $35K loss.......

At the end of the day it is your money and your choice to make.

[1sgt]

I'm thinking of getting a 2014 SS . On your option you show  WATTS LINK REAR SUSPENSION  do I need it for my car ??

[jerseygator]

[Gary L Patterson]

The watts link is helpful to center the rear and help it plant when coming out of the corners.  I have one on mine and it is certainly helpful.  Mine is driven aggressively.
Contact a Shelby sales team member for specific information on how to order your 14'.