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#1 OFFLINE   NMAv

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 04:37 AM

OK, is it worth replacing the stock brake lines with SS ones? I know on some older cars the lines expand when you apply the brakes really hard adn you get less braking. Not sure about the GT500. Also, not sure how difficult this is to do. Being as the only thing you want to work better than the super charger are the brakes, I want to be darn sure they are working to their fullest.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 06:37 AM

I too have been wondering about this
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 06:25 PM

Advice I received when I asked this question a few years back was yes, replace the lines with SS ones. It's not expensive and it's easy to do. Small price to pay for extra safety.
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 06:32 PM

Any advice on which brand to use?

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 06:59 PM

Goodridge. Check Revan Racing. Van has lots of experience with GT500s. http://www.revanracing.com/
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:47 PM

I used the J & M pieces: http://www.hotpart.c...ts-4-wheel-abs/
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Posted 28 September 2012 - 09:58 AM

Whats the benefit of doing this swap? Is it just that SS ones won't overheat or anything like that?
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Posted 28 September 2012 - 09:58 AM

I used Earl's. They were definitely worth it. Gave a firmer pedal.

Edited by SSGT500, 28 September 2012 - 09:59 AM.


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Posted 05 October 2012 - 05:21 AM

Whats the benefit of doing this swap? Is it just that SS ones won't overheat or anything like that?


I don't believe it has anything to do with overheating. With hydraulics it is all about pressure and where that force is applied. Rubber hoses expand under pressure , so when you press on the brake pedal part of the hydraulic pressure goes into expanding the rubber hoses (hence the squishy pedal). With stainless lines or reinforced low expansion rubber like the BOSS 302 brake line kit (which by the way sell for about $100 in the Shelby Parts Store) that force which normally would be expanding rubber brake lines is now being applied to the brake pistons resulting in a firmer pedal.

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Oops, forgot to add that this will be one of my upgrades next time I flush the brake system. I'm looking at the BOSS 302 kit as a less expensive alternative to the $200+ stainless line kits.

Edited by mark.barton, 05 October 2012 - 05:29 AM.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:16 PM

I think I was also be going the boss 302 route. I always rather go with ford or FRPP parts for mods if I can.
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 07:55 PM

I used the J & M pieces: http://www.hotpart.c...ts-4-wheel-abs/


+1 on the J & M pieces. I used them on a SGT and they are OEM fit and excellent quality.

I'm also happy with the Boss 302 lines that I put on my street driven GT500.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 06:15 PM

Has anyone used the TPS Motorsports SS lines? They're half the price of the Steeda, Goodridge and J&M.

http://www.tpsmotors...-wheel-abs.html

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 08:05 AM

Any real noticeable difference with the Boss 302 lines?

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 08:31 AM

+1 on the J & M pieces. I used them on a SGT and they are OEM fit and excellent quality.

I'm also happy with the Boss 302 lines that I put on my street driven GT500.


What was the difference in pedal feel with the boss 302 lines? It kinda feels with the pedal now you have to push it a bit to really engage the brakes. I was hoping that maybe changing the line would make it so that the moment I push it the brakes instantly or engage or do stainless steel and the boss 302 lines not do this? And when they say they make the pedal feel firmer do they mean then we have to push harder for our cars to brake the same amount as before?
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:14 AM

Has anyone used the TPS Motorsports SS lines? They're half the price of the Steeda, Goodridge and J&M.

http://www.tpsmotors...-wheel-abs.html


I was wondering about these also, anybody use them?

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:56 AM

I went Goodridge. Can't ask for better quality.
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 08:50 PM

What was the difference in pedal feel with the boss 302 lines? It kinda feels with the pedal now you have to push it a bit to really engage the brakes. I was hoping that maybe changing the line would make it so that the moment I push it the brakes instantly or engage or do stainless steel and the boss 302 lines not do this? And when they say they make the pedal feel firmer do they mean then we have to push harder for our cars to brake the same amount as before?


I would say the Boss 302 brake lines provide a modest improvement over stock. They aren't expensive and they were relatively easy to install when I was flushing the brake fluid. I don't track my GT500 so I stayed with factory parts. In my experience the brake pads make more difference in pedal feel than the brake lines. Performance pads should have higher initial "bite" and greater friction so they change the pedal pressure required to slow the car.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 02:39 PM

I, too, am looking to go with SS brake lines (winter project). +1 on this thread. While J & M & Earls both sound good, Goodridge were awesome on my Harley. Since tthey're established in this industry, I'm leaning towards them (Goodridge). I love my Hawk pads! Zero fade @ Summit Pt. during the 50th.
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 07:06 PM

Put the Steeda lines in earlier this week along with the high pro brake fluid. As soon as I hit the track I'll post a follow-up.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 10:14 AM

if your on the front straight heading for the first turn at some where between 120 to 130mph with your foot to the floor..... the first brake cone comes up and you hit the brakes for all their worth and you have rubber lines you can feel give in the pedal.. a set of 4 goodridge later and their is no modulation in the pedal thats when you know.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 02:47 PM

Has anyone used the TPS Motorsports SS lines? They're half the price of the Steeda, Goodridge and J&M.

http://www.tpsmotors...-wheel-abs.html


I have no doubt you still be very happy with our lines.... :)
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Posted 04 June 2013 - 09:47 PM

FYI - The TPS lines don't work on the '13-up 6 piston Brembo's.
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 03:38 AM

I went with the goodrich ss lines when I did my rotor and pad upgrade last year.

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 05:09 PM

I am about to install the Goodrich SS lines but after more careful examination, it looks like the J&M lines might FIT better.  From the J&M pictures, they show the correct caliper mounting connections and the front lines have the wire spacers for the wheel speed sensors.  Securing the wheel speed senor wires is a small opportunity but did anyone fitting the Goodrich lines have an opportunity with the common fit (orientation) banjo fitting at the calipers?  I am sure that the OEM style connection was developed that way to prevent any rotation at the banjo bolt.



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Posted 04 August 2013 - 06:45 PM

OK, so after going to the track with the new brake lines I have to say that I didn't experience any brake fade whatsoever.  I added the SS lines, high temp fluid and the Boss 302 brake vent kit.  Seems to do the trick nicely. 


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Posted 04 August 2013 - 08:26 PM

Goodridge lines fit great. Not sure what you're asking about "rotation" at the banjo bolt. Once properly torqued, they should not rotate at all.

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 12:53 PM

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