[MustangFanatic]

The Boss must evoke the theme of the original Boss 302 and the earlier K-code 289 Mustangs, a true "Pony Car", not just a straight line bruiser. The original Boss 302 could perform with the best of domestic and foreign iron on the road courses of America and the latest iteration should uphold that legacy. Here are some of the items to include:
Driveline:

• 5.0L 4V N/A "Cammer" Engine - 1st Choice
  
• 5.4L 4V N/A Engine, All Aluminum - 2nd Choice
  
• 5.4L 4V N/A Engine, Iron Block, Aluminum Heads - 3rd Choice
  
• 6 spd Transmission
  
• Torsen Differential
  
• Optional: Rear Gear Ratios: 3.55 or 3.73

Suspension:

• 1" Lower Suspension with Higher Rate Springs and Larger Anti-roll Bars
  
• IRS
  
• 14" Front Brakes with 4 piston Calipers (from the GT500)
  
• Subframe Connectors
  
• Optional: Roll Bar

Exterior:

• GT500 Front Fascia with Deeper Air Dam
  
• Adjustable Rear Spoiler
  
• Standard 18" "Magnum-style" Wheels
  
• Shaker Hood
  
• Mirrors Painted Body Color
  
• Optional: Boss Stripe Package
  
• Optional: Grabber Colors
  
• Optional: Rear Louvers
  
• Optional: 19" Wheels
  
• Potential: '69 - '70 Rear Quarter Windows similar to FUD Concept

Interior:

• Standard V6 Cloth Interior
  
• Lightweight Cloth Sport Seats
  
• Standard Convenience Features: PW, PL, Tilt Wheel, AM/FM Stereo CD, AC, Rear Defrost
  
• Optional Convenience Features: Cruise Control, "Shaker" Stereo, Power Seats
  
• Optional: Rear Seat Delete

Competition Prep Package:

• Rear Seat Delete
  
• A/C Delete
  
• Stereo Delete
  
• Tilt Wheel Delete
  
• Rear Defrost Delete
  
• Console Delete
  
• Carpet Delete
  
• Race Seats

General:

• Curb Weight: < 3,400 lbs
  
• HP Target: 400 minimum

The post has been edited to include all suggestions

This post has been edited by MustangFanatic: 22 December 2005 - 08:12 AM

[Cheese302]

We dont need tons of power, but a few more would help. A 4 valve engine would be cool.

-Six Speed
-Engine has to rev. I need 7000 at least. My 1969 Boss revs out to 7500 stock
-Lowered Suspension
-Needs to have a good stripe kit
-good brakes 4 pot calipers would be cool
-limited slip
-get rid of all the "doo-dads" in the interior, no center console, just gauges, the cheap radio, good aftermarket seats, chrome stick sticking out of the floor for the shifter.
-Wide tires
-more heavily weighted steering.
-no backseat
-black hood and decklid.
-make it louder


I just want it to look meaner sound cooler and be more fun to drive. but i want one to make a little boss collection.

[08mach1]

I like see

6Speed auto. and a 6Speed man.


32 value 5.0 cam V8 with 450hp.


Grabber colors from 1970 Like Grabber Blue, Grabber Orange, Grabber green,


the Boss stripes from 1970 Boss


18" or 19" Bullitt wheels.

2003 Mach1 seats be in it.

This post has been edited by 08mach1: 14 December 2005 - 09:46 PM

[robertlane]

Yeah - grabber colors are a must. I would bet that only 2-3 max of the original colors would be used though. I read on the MustangSource that some shade of orange will be used next year. That seems to fit in the scheme here.

[Cheese302]

there should never be an automatic transmission in a mustang wearing the name Boss.

there has never been a factory boss auto, and there should never be one

[ingram4868]

First of all - NO electronic gas pedal. On a road course they do not respond fast enough and giving it a tap doing heel/toe is far from ideal.

I'd like to see either the 5.4 NA or the new 5.0 NA.
6 speed manual with IRS for road courses and at least a 3.73 rear end to keep the RPM's up while in the twisties.

BUT, I also want all the comforts like power windows, AC, great stereo and a quiet interior.

[95SVTCobraVA]

I think it should be as close to a "Trans Am BOSS" as a street Mustang can be and still have a warrenty. A REAL road car!

[SteelSteeds]

According to the rumors, there is going to be a Mach 1 AND a Boss. Happy days are here again!!!

I would love to see the Mach 1 with the 5.4 NA, solid rear axle and 6 speed, 350+ hp, while the Boss steps it up a notch, with a 5.0 DOHC NA "Cammer" engine, 6 speed, IRS and 400+ hp. Both cars should be lowered and have the option of the shaker hood and a "Drag Pak" with 3.73 gears and better suspension. Big brakes should be standard, and color availabilty should definitely include Calypso Coral! Valencia is too wimpy looking, IMHO, give me the brightest orange! Competition Orange would be okay, too.

These models will both fit nicely into the pricing structure with the Mach 1 at $30k and the Boss at $35k. This leaves the GT 500 as top dog at $40k and with the highest hp rating, and the $35k for the Boss allows the extra $$ needed for further development of the 5.0 DOHC. If that motor just isn't in the cards, I'd hope for a 5.4 DOHC. The Boss needs to be close to 400 hp.

With a wonderful selection to choose from like this, dealer gouging will decrease (somewhat), customer satisfaction will go through the roof, and I'll happily choose the model with the most power that I can get for around $35k. Please Ford, pull through for us on this! I'd hate to defect to the Chrysler Group, but I've got to admit that the new Challenger concept is right on the money, and if the bang-for-the-buck factor kicks in I would seriously consider it. I own 4 Fords now and would like to keep it that way.

[05yellowgt]

I'd love to see a 5.4 aluminum block boss but it probably won't happen due to cost. The 5.4 aluminum block available is the Ford GT block and it is ~$2500 alone.

What I would love to see is the following:

Boss281 --DOHC 4.6 with VCT (350-375hp)
69 Boss 302 exterior scheme
Lowered ~1" all around
Shaker scoop
6-speed tranny
upgraded brakes and rear suspension components (road race/autocross inspired)
18" magnum 500 style wheels


Boss330 -- 5.4 3v or 4v with VCT (410hp-~430hp)
same upgrades as Boss281
Optional rear seat delete
Optional drag pack suspension and rear end gearing

BossTBA -- THis will be the King of the Mustang line up (Shelby Mustang being considered an offshoot for a higher scale buyer wanting more "plush" amenities to go with their ~485 hp)

DOHC v10 developed from the v10 concepts in the Cobra concept and GR1 550-650 hp
Extreme weigh reductions (~3200lbs with all fluids)
Rear seat delete standard
premium upgraded suspension and brake components (maybe switching to a 4 link)
Boss 429 inpspired styling
radio delete option
Full race seats with 5 point harness
Full sub frame connectors
Road race and drag pack options

[dhouston]

I posted this in another section, but will add here too:

This is great news. I have been a Boss 302 owner for many years now. I have a '70 Boss 302 Special paint car. Light Gray Metallic. Simply a Beautiful car.

Anyway, I hope Ford comes out with a new Boss 302. As a vintage owner, they need to be cautious of how it it will look like and perform. Also, would be good to have it raced in a series which ads to the historical significance. The Cammer car is a great start , I would reccomend it as a design start. The graphics are almost right on on from the Cammer car for the new Boss.


As for features and options I would like to see:


Needs to be a very high revving engine. The Cammer 5.0 I believe will do the trick

5 speed or 6 speed only, no automatics

Colors as available in '70: Grabber, and standards (please also include Silver! With black stripes, cant beat the look)

Sport slats and rear spoiler availablity

Fold down rear seat

Updated Magnum style wheels

Special road racing suspension. Lower 1-2 in. than the standard Mustang.

Lots of unigue parts like the SVO, SVT, etc's of the past.

I will place an order for one the minute it is available. Thanks to Ford. I certainly hope this comes to fruition!

-Dave

*** If Ford designers are listening, please come over and ask the folks on the Boss302.com web site for input. Many great people there who are avid Boss enthusiasts and owners willing to give good input. Go to the General forum section. Also, feel free to contact me directly if desired. I would be glad to offer my help.

This post has been edited by dhouston: 15 December 2005 - 03:55 PM

[Cheese302]

dhouston, on Dec 15 2005, 06:54 PM, said:

I posted this in another section, but will add here too:

This is great news. I have been a Boss 302 owner for many years now. I have a '70 Boss 302 Special paint car. Light Gray Metallic. Simply a Beautiful car.

Anyway, I hope Ford comes out with a new Boss 302. As a vintage owner, they need to be cautious of how it it will look like and perform. Also, would be good to have it raced in a series which ads to the historical significance. The Cammer car is a great start , I would reccomend it as a design start. The graphics are almost right on on from the Cammer car for the new Boss.
As for features and options I would like to see:
Needs to be a very high revving engine. The Cammer 5.0 I believe will do the trick

5 speed or 6 speed only, no automatics

Colors as available in '70: Grabber, and standards (please also include Silver! With black stripes, cant beat the look)

Sport slats and rear spoiler availablity

Fold down rear seat

Updated Magnum style wheels

Special road racing suspension. Lower 1-2 in. than the standard Mustang.

Lots of unigue parts like the SVO, SVT, etc's of the past.

I will place an order for one the minute it is available. Thanks to Ford. I certainly hope this comes to fruition!

-Dave

*** If Ford designers are listening, please come over and ask the folks on the Boss302.com web site for input. Many great people there who are avid Boss enthusiasts and owners willing to give good input. Go to the General forum section. Also, feel free to contact me directly if desired. I would be glad to offer my help.

completely agreed as well being a boss owner

although mine is luckily enough a 1969

[MustangFanatic]

I will also add my vote for the 5.0L Cammer as the ideal Boss engine but barring that, an all-aluminum 5.4L 4V engine. I don't think the 5.4L would fit the persona of the Boss as well since I don't think it would rev past 6,500 and in my mind a real Boss should redline over 7,000.

While the car must have a stripe package to be a true Boss, I would think there should also be a stripe delete option for those who prefer a more understated appearance. The Boss should come standard with the following "standard" convenience options:

• Power Windows and Locks
  
• Tilt Wheel
  
• AM/FM Stereo CD with Satellite Capability
  
• Air Conditioning
  
• Rear Defroster

Convenience options that could be optional:

• Cruise Control
  
• "Shaker" Stereo
  
• Power Seats

I'd like to see Ford bring back something that SVO used during the '80's, a Competition Prep option offering the following:

• A/C Delete
  
• Stereo Delete
  
• Rear Seat Delete
  
• Optional Spoiler Delete
  
• Lightweight Sport Seats
  
• Sound deadener removal
  
• And any other options that would remove weight

[crispy23c]

For the look, about 95% GTR. Alum. 5.4 short-stroked, 7k++ rpm, 400 HP (anyway). And make it stick to the road like glue!

[MustangFanatic]

The look of the GT-R is too over the top for me, but I'll certainly take that Cammer!!!

[SoftBatch]

MustangFanatic, on Dec 16 2005, 02:28 PM, said:

[*]Sound deadener removal
[*]And any other options that would remove weight
[/list]

I don't think there really is any sound deadener in the new Mustangs. I know the trunk only has the carpet.

[Boss_302]

all the graber colors, NO AUTOS, and a Shaker

[robertlane]

Of course there was a small block and a big block Boss during 1969-1970.

But, just like Ford passed on the GT350 for the GT500, I think they will do the same thing for the next generation Boss. I think it will use the 5.4L (329) for the engine, but lean toward the Boss 302 for the other characteristics, like handling.

I can't see a 4.6L (281) Boss. Romeo has been reporting an easy 450 horsepower from experimental engines, but that comes at a price - stress = warranty. Aside from that, Ford is not going to bring a knife (4.6L) to a gun party with the 5.7L and 6.1L Hemi Challangers coming out. . .plus the 'Vette powered Camaro.

A REAL longshot would be the 5.0L DOHC. But like I said earlier, this would be too costly for Ford to really justify when the 5.4L is ready to go. I don't think Ford's current financial position will allow the 5.0L DOHC at this time.

My bet is on the Boss 329.

[MustangFanatic]

Robert I would agree but we can keep hoping for the Cammer!!

[crispy23c]

I think Robert is right. That cammer is not emmissions ready, and that's costly. 5.4 makes sense. I would really like to see a car close to this but with the 60's style rear-wing, no sidepipes, keep it as light as possible, Shelby lights not required. 400+ HP, 7k+ rpms, lowered 1-1 1/2", quick-ratio steering, lightweight wheels. Oh, yeah, keep the rear 1/4 window stock, stock gas cap, with '69 Boss 302 Graphics.

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This post has been edited by crispy23c: 19 December 2005 - 12:30 PM

[robertlane]

Would there be any objections to build the Boss off of a non-GT body. . .like the V6? I mean, just use the V6 body and toss a 5.4L in it. Just real simple. Or would that not be enough for most people?