[1fastford]

I just had the car tuned and wow what a difference. I had JLT cai and over axle magna flow exhaust with evolution performance tune. Today I took it to Swanson performance in Torrance CA. and we put a 2.6 pulley on. I threw in the Evoluton performance tune they gave me when I baught the kit from them and it dynoed at 527hp and 520lbs tq on pump 91 octane. Then danny at Swanson performance said watch this and threw his tune in and it put down 555hp with 545lbs tq on 91 octane. The numbers dont even do it justice the car fn hauls ass now big time. I have driven the car very hard with no problems at all. I raced my buddies 08 turbo carrera with exhaust mods and tune. On the freeway I pulled him hard untill 165mph then we ran out of road. he was in shock I might add. We raced about 5 times and it was the same result every time. I did not race him from a dead stop because I can't hook this car up now at all. His car is way to fast from a dead stop. My next mods will all be based on traction. Except for putting a drive shaft, crank pulley with a new tune in next week. I will keep you posted how she runs then. I just can't say how awesome this car is to drive. I have had it 4 months and have over 15000 on her already. If anyone has any suggestions on traction mods please let me no. I am not here to bash evolution performance at all I fully understand CA. fuel is way different than other fuel out there. I will also add that every car is different and there tune was on the rich side as it should be for safety. I drove my car for 14000 miles with there tune and it ran really good with JLT cai. My point is every car has to be tuned to be perfict. I thaught is was fast then and wow now it is just awesome.
P.S. These #s are SAE numbers on a dynojet dyno the STD numbers were much higher.

This post has been edited by 1fastford: 07 March 2008 - 06:55 PM

[ingram4868]

1fastford, on Mar 6 2008, 12:14 AM, said:

I just had the car tuned and wow what a difference. I had JLT cai and over axle magna flow exhaust with evolution performance tune. Today I took it to Swanson performance in Torrance CA. and we put a 2.6 pulley on. I threw in the Evoluton performance tune they gave me when I baught the kit from them and it dynoed at 527hp and 520lbs tq on pump 91 octane. Then danny at Swanson performance said watch this and threw his tune in and it put down 555hp with 560lbs tq on 91 octane. The numbers dont even do it justice the car fn hauls ass now big time. I have driven the car very hard with no problems at all. I raced my buddies 08 turbo carrera with exhaust mods and tune. On the freeway I pulled him hard untill 165mph then we ran out of road. he was in shock I might add. We raced about 5 times and it was the same result every time. I did not race him from a dead stop because I can't hook this car up now at all. His car is way to fast from a dead stop. My next mods will all be based on traction. Except for putting a drive shaft, crank pulley with a new tune in next week. I will keep you posted how she runs then. I just can't say how awesome this car is to drive. I have had it 4 months and have over 15000 on her already. If anyone has any suggestions on traction mods please let me no. I am not here to bash evolution performance at all I fully understand CA. fuel is way different than other fuel out there. I will also add that every car is different and there tune was on the rich side as it should be for safety. I drove my car for 14000 miles with there tune and it ran really good with JLT cai. My point is every car has to be tuned to be perfict. I thaught is was fast then and wow now it is just awesome.
P.S. These #s are SAE numbers on a dynojet dyno the STD numbers were much higher.

Did you get a printout showing the air/fuel readings? IMO the additional timing Danny added would concern me especially on hot days.

[1fastford]

I hope that is not the case. Danny showed me everything air fuel, maff and timing graph and I have been tuning myself for 15 years in the motorcycle racing idustry winning many races here and around the world. His first tune was a little lean for my taste but it made some nice #s. He asured me it was safe and many people were running it but I asked him to ritchen it up a bit and then the power even went higher with a nice iced cooldown. I have driven this thing very hard with no ill effects at 85 f so when it gets about 120 here in Velancia CA I will probaby do lots of data logging except I will then have the bottom pulley on with a new tune and even more boost.

I tend to live a little on the edge so I am sure there is a safer tune out there but so far this thing absolutely hauls. After talking to Danny I really feel he has a nice grip on tuning V8's. I am not a v8 tunner so I will take his word on it and the fact is my car runs really good. Way better than it did especially down low. The evolution tune had major problems in traffic do to it being way to rich on the bottom. Its just a perfict example of every car is different and has to be tuned.

P.S. I made a mistake on my torque it was 545 lbs. My bad. It was a long day. Sorry.

[txshavers]

What kind of issues in traffic were you running in to ? Nice number btw!

1fastford, on Mar 7 2008, 07:37 PM, said:

I hope that is not the case. Danny showed me everything air fuel, maff and timing graph and I have been tuning myself for 15 years in the motorcycle racing idustry winning many races here and around the world. His first tune was a little lean for my taste but it made some nice #s. He asured me it was safe and many people were running it but I asked him to ritchen it up a bit and then the power even went higher with a nice iced cooldown. I have driven this thing very hard with no ill effects at 85 f so when it gets about 120 here in Velancia CA I will probaby do lots of data logging except I will then have the bottom pulley on with a new tune and even more boost.

I tend to live a little on the edge so I am sure there is a safer tune out there but so far this thing absolutely hauls. After talking to Danny I really feel he has a nice grip on tuning V8's. I am not a v8 tunner so I will take his word on it and the fact is my car runs really good. Way better than it did especially down low. The evolution tune had major problems in traffic do to it being way to rich on the bottom. Its just a perfict example of every car is different and has to be tuned.

P.S. I made a mistake on my torque it was 545 lbs. My bad. It was a long day. Sorry.

[1fastford]

It had slight serging and a inconsistant idle sometimes. Like if you were sitting in stop and go it would high idle sometimes around 1100 rpm. The maf settings were way off for my car at low rpm making the car run super rich. Also it would have inconsistant power somestimes from first to second gear shifts almost like it had no power in second gear but would go away in the top of the rpm range like say 4500 to red line which I moved up to 7000 with no problems. It was not that bad so I just drove it for about 14000 that way but now that it is tuned perfict wow what a difference. It drives totally different now down low. Much nicer to drive around slow and my fuel milage has climed a bit to 18.5MPG. I drive a ton of highway miles.

Hay guys I need a new hood if anyone has one for sale I had a rock go through the front of mine. Maybe someone who has done a super smake mod has one. My car is vista blue but I dont really care what color it is.

Thanks

This post has been edited by 1fastford: 08 March 2008 - 09:46 PM

[Tucker]

Wow, fantastic man!!!
That has to be one of the highest pulley cars out their.
Jay

[Joe G]

1fastford, on Mar 9 2008, 12:44 AM, said:

Also it would have inconsistant power somestimes from first to second gear shifts almost like it had no power in second gear but would go away in the top of the rpm range like say 4500 to red line which I moved up to 7000 with no problems.

Yikes!

7000 rpm is hitting big danger territory here.

You might want to talk to Fred and the guys at Evo about that. I know most get scared after 6400-6500 with these engines... hate to see you blow it up revving too high. From everything I've read, high RPM's are the potential problem area with this engine and the cracked forged rods.

You might also want to get a data logged dyno next time to discuss with Fred. I know that from time to time there are tunes that are sent out that don't maximize all the power potential, but they also build in a safe cushion as well. Your new tune may have better #'s - but may be at the edge of safe - esp at your high RPMs.

Just a few thoughts and opinions.

Killer numbers though!!

[1fastford]

Thank you for the feedback and the concern. We will see how she holds together. So far so good.
I moved the redline up to 7000 the day I recieved my SCT tuner and CAI from JLT with around 800 miles on her and have driven the sh*t out of this thing for 15000 now with no problems at all.
I have many race cars and race boats that I have built and not one revs below 6000. Not even my 572 ci 14-71 blown big block in my off shore race boat. It even rev's to 6500. I really feel that ford sets that very conservatively in these cars. I mean come on this is a 5.4 liter v 8. If it was assembled with good parts and put together with pride 7000 should be a realistic number for sure. These motors are built with forged parts that are way strong. There are guys running bigger super chargers, nitrous and way more boost that us and they are holding together. I am sure there are nightmare stories out there for sure.
I will tell you right now what breaks parts is when your motor is at peak HP and or peak TQ when you hit the rev limiter. Look at the dyno graphs and you guys will see these cars are still making tons of hp at 6500. I can't tell you how many times I wanted more rpm when I hit that thing because the car is still pulling hard. In stock form it is way to low at 6200 trust me. That is when you break parts if you bounce off the rev limiter. Move it to 6800 or 7000 and stay off it and you will have no problems. I am telling you guys this from tons of racing experience in off shore race boats. Also long extended high rpm runs of course is bad like in fifth gear past 6200. Quick bursts of solid traction runs is no problem to 6800 or 7000 with a good tune. I have had no problems with my motor and I run it up there daily. I am not saying I am not taking miles of longevity off my motor. I no the long term effects. I just hope she keeps holding together just like it has been for 15000+ now. When it goes I will just make it better.

These are only my opinions and I don't expect everyone to agree with me here so please dont take it the wrong way. I love this car and everyone who drives one so take care you guys.