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Simple brake cooling mods Provided by Porsche :)

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Posted 14 September 2008 - 12:26 PM

Cantrell Motorsports has found that the Porsche GT3 RS brake scoops are easy to install on just about any car and they work quite well. Nice thing is that you don't have to deal with brake cooling cutouts in the front fascia nor with the brake hoses. And, the scoops are only $30 each and it takes about an hour to install them; you have to weld the attachment bolts to your lower control arms.

I also had them remove the fake grills from the lower bumper and cutout the backing and install some black mesh. I never liked the look of the fake honey comb grill pattern with the billet upper grill from Shelby. Plus, removing the fake grill turned into a real grill which allows more air to pass to the brakes.

In the first photo you can see the new lower grill and below that you can see the scoops. The second photo shows one of the scoops.

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First track day for the SGT is Tuesday; looking forward to it :) :shift:
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Posted 14 September 2008 - 12:46 PM

It looks good, but where is the airflow directed. In the heart of the disc or on the inside surface?
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Posted 14 September 2008 - 12:49 PM

View Postpjcobra9t7, on Sep 14 2008, 01:46 PM, said:

It looks good, but where is the airflow directed. In the heart of the disc or on the inside surface?


It spans most of the surface; good enough for my needs.
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Posted 14 September 2008 - 12:55 PM

Right. You should run with and without to notice the difference. Have a pyrometer ready and check the temps. Less heat is less brake pad wear. And change your brake fluid regularly. What pads are you using?
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Posted 14 September 2008 - 01:04 PM

View Postpjcobra9t7, on Sep 14 2008, 01:55 PM, said:

Right. You should run with and without to notice the difference. Have a pyrometer ready and check the temps. Less heat is less brake pad wear. And change your brake fluid regularly. What pads are you using?


Since I'm going to just run with street tires I went with less aggressive pads than I've used in the past on other cars; I went with the Hawk HP+. I normally like Hawk DTC-60 pads for heavy track use.

I also put in the Castrol SRF fluid; my fave.
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Posted 15 September 2008 - 04:26 PM

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Since I'm going to just run with street tires I went with less aggressive pads than I've used in the past on other cars; I went with the Hawk HP+. I normally like Hawk DTC-60 pads for heavy track use.

I also put in the Castrol SRF fluid; my fave.


I ran my 1st track event in July and I am going back in Oct and maybe run a SCCA event in Nov.this weekend I have installed stainless brake lines and DOT 4 Motul brake fluid.

enjoy, I do
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Posted 15 September 2008 - 11:44 PM

Good pads. I like Hawks. I also heard good words on the Porterfields.

The Motul RBF600 is a good choice. High wet boiling point.
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Posted 16 September 2008 - 01:24 AM

That looks great - I'll be curious to know how well that works for you.
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Posted 16 September 2008 - 07:07 PM

Well, had a great time with the SGT at the track today and the brakes held up superbly. Keep in mind I ran on street rubber and HP+ pads, not exactly a fast setup, so not super taxing on the brakes. Pacific Raceways has a long front straight which can be very fast at the end. Today, I held my speed at 120MPH, not wanting to overheat the brakes and tires unnecessarily; plus few people go faster than that so I wasn't going to hold anyone up. Anyway, on street tires, Turn 2 is about a 65MPH sweeper so I was repeatedly slowing the car from 120 to 65 with no problems.

So, for this level of driving, this brake setup was just fine.

The SGT handled really well; I'm very impressed. My last Mustang was a track prepped (had just about everything Maximum Motorsports sells for suspension and chassis) '03 SVT Cobra and I'd say the SGT with the Ford Racing Suspension was it's equal, if not better, in the handling department. I didn't miss the extra power (my Cobra put down 435HP in open track trim, er, pulley) and I definitely did not miss the supercharger whine!

Fine times were had :)
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Posted 16 September 2008 - 08:01 PM

I am glad you had a lot of fun. That's whats counting. Trackdays are addictive. :happy feet:
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Posted 18 September 2008 - 07:19 AM

Obligatory track photo from Tuesday's fun:

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 08:50 AM

Awesome! The Shelby GT sure looks like (and appears to be) a natural for the tracks.
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Posted 18 September 2008 - 11:06 AM

Very nice. Beautiful shot.
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Posted 18 September 2008 - 03:13 PM

View Postsleepless, on Sep 18 2008, 08:19 AM, said:

Obligatory track photo from Tuesday's fun:

Only one? Who took the great picture while the photographer was driving?
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Posted 18 September 2008 - 03:20 PM

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Only one? Who took the great picture while the photographer was driving?


I think it was one of the participants that took the shot. It was a two-day NSX event; I shot photos on the first day and drove on the second day. I had one person come up at the end of the day and say "the Mustang was the highlight of the event" :happy feet:
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Posted 18 September 2008 - 09:45 PM

Isn't that great? At our trackdays I am also always the only Mustang, even the only American car, that shows up in between Japs and Euros. And every time they say my 97 Cobra has the best sound of all cars at the track.
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Posted 19 September 2008 - 07:07 PM

The Bridgestone's didn't take too well to track abuse; they started chunking in the middle of the afternoon.

The right front gets the most abuse at Pacific Raceways. Even with -2.5 degrees of negative camber, the outside wasn't going to take anymore without falling apart. I was running around 38PSI in the front, hot.

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Posted 19 September 2008 - 10:41 PM

I have been on that track. A lot of left turns. I have Pilot Sports and it is the same way. The outside profyle of the tire gets lifted as you know what I mean. You will get little edges and that causes vibration in a long run. I have to go to slicks.
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Posted 19 September 2008 - 10:51 PM

Yeah, I've got some Nitto NT01's laying around from another car that I'll throw on next time; street tires just can't handle the abuse...
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Posted 05 December 2008 - 05:47 AM

Did you get these from your local dealership or online?
How do they attach?

Thanks
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