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Hmmm... Ford rates eco boost V6 at 350HP Coincidence... I think NOT!!!

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 07:20 AM

I think you can look for the Shelby GT350 to be produced for 2011 now that Ford has gotton the new eco boost V6 engine rated for 350HP. Coincidence... I think NOT!!! GT350 buyers get your check books started.
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 12:43 PM

my vote would be the 5.0 Coyote 2011MY
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 01:24 PM

I really don't think it would be a wise move to put a V6 in a production Shelby regardless of power output.
Shelby epitomizes American V-8 muscle.
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 01:52 PM

hmmm, you may be on to something here.
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 02:35 PM

View Postdiamondback, on Feb 10 2009, 07:20 AM, said:

I think you can look for the Shelby GT350 to be produced for 2011 now that Ford has gotton the new eco boost V6 engine rated for 350HP. Coincidence... I think NOT!!! GT350 buyers get your check books started.


I don't mean to help spread rumors but I think you might be on to something :)
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 02:38 PM

I don't think you're on to anything.
The GT350 didn't get it's name from the HP, so why would this indicate anything?

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 03:04 PM

View Postkahmann, on Feb 10 2009, 04:38 PM, said:

I don't think you're on to anything.
The GT350 didn't get it's name from the HP, so why would this indicate anything?

Ken


Neither did the original GT500... However, when the "new-gen" GT500 was in development, the HP rating was originally around 475HP... But "somehow" it managed to be exactly 500HP when the car when into production... While I am NOT a fan of the V-6 going into anything "GT350" (which is what the SGT should have been from the first place)... I don't think we, as the paying customers, really have a say in it anyhow...
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 12:53 PM

View Post07SGT0547, on Feb 10 2009, 05:04 PM, said:

Neither did the original GT500... However, when the "new-gen" GT500 was in development, the HP rating was originally around 475HP... But "somehow" it managed to be exactly 500HP when the car when into production... While I am NOT a fan of the V-6 going into anything "GT350" (which is what the SGT should have been from the first place)... I don't think we, as the paying customers, really have a say in it anyhow...


My thoughts exactly.

Think about it though, big weight savings, = better handling, its a Shelby and nice HP. Whats not to like!? And as far as the other comments regarding Shelby does not equal V6. Look no further than Shelby's independant lineup of the CS6 models.
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Post icon  Posted 11 February 2009 - 02:31 PM

View Postdiamondback, on Feb 11 2009, 02:53 PM, said:

My thoughts exactly.

Think about it though, big weight savings, = better handling, its a Shelby and nice HP. Whats not to like!? And as far as the other comments regarding Shelby does not equal V6. Look no further than Shelby's independant lineup of the CS6 models.


Don't forget the Terlingua V-6 only packages... Maybe a test "mule" dressed up as a "bunny"... And "hidden" right there in plain sight :headscratch:

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 02:54 PM

View Post07SGT0547, on Feb 11 2009, 06:31 PM, said:

Don't forget the Terlingua V-6 only packages... Maybe a test "mule" dressed up as a "bunny"... And "hidden" right there in plane sight :headscratch:



+1

whether we like it or not, the auto industry is headed in that direction. Shelby will have to move that direction too if they want to stay in the game. Im sure SAI loves to make us happy, but in the end they are not in business to make us happy. The number one reason they are in business is to make money, as it is for any business.

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 02:54 PM

View Post07SGT0547, on Feb 11 2009, 06:31 PM, said:

Don't forget the Terlingua V-6 only packages... Maybe a test "mule" dressed up as a "bunny"... And "hidden" right there in plane sight :headscratch:



+1

whether we like it or not, the auto industry is headed in that direction. Shelby will have to move that direction too if they want to stay in the game. Im sure SAI loves to make us happy, but in the end they are not in business to make us happy. The number one reason they are in business is to make money, as it is for any business.

Chris
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 03:35 PM

View Postdiamondback, on Feb 10 2009, 10:20 AM, said:

I think you can look for the Shelby GT350 to be produced for 2011 now that Ford has gotton the new eco boost V6 engine rated for 350HP. Coincidence... I think NOT!!! GT350 buyers get your check books started.


Might be an error there - the new eco boost V6 is rated 365 HP in the new Taurus SHO. The GT350 name was not named for the car's horsepower rating originally anyway, and I don't think they'll detune it to 350 HP for the Mustang!
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 06:28 PM

View Postilmor, on Feb 11 2009, 05:35 PM, said:

Might be an error there - the new eco boost V6 is rated 365 HP in the new Taurus SHO. The GT350 name was not named for the car's horsepower rating originally anyway, and I don't think they'll detune it to 350 HP for the Mustang!


Well it's rated 350hp in some other ford vehicle I think the edge? Auto week was reviewing the car at the auto show last episode.

Ok I forgot I had that episode dvr'ed it's the 2010 Lincoln MKT.

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Posted 16 February 2009 - 02:24 PM

View Poststump_breaker, on Feb 10 2009, 03:24 PM, said:

Shelby epitomizes American V-8 muscle.



Personally, I'm looking forward to another turbo charged Shelby....and maybe he just likes making American muscle at any displacement range.
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Posted 13 April 2009 - 08:16 AM

I often get asked what makes the basic foundation for a true muscle car. My answer:

1) Front Engine

2) Rear Wheel Drive (or All Wheel Drive that primarily uses the rear wheels)

3) 8 or more cylinders! (remember that the first 200ci Mustangs were considered Pony cars when they came out)

BTW, whenever Shelby builds a certain type of car (like the Terlingua)- you can bet that Ford will NOT follow the exact idea. Both companies want to have a certain niche of the performance market. Honestly, if you went to a dealership and saw a new 2010 Shelby Terlingua or a 2010 Ford Shelby GT350, most of use would buy the Terlingua because it's modified by Shelby Automobiles. So, don't plan on getting the GT350 name. However, you will probably get a "sport" version that uses the eco boost design (just years of Ford experience talking here).

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 09:22 AM

We were originally advised by Amy that the SAI/Ford contract to produce a Shelby Mustang was good through 2010.

Has there been any info floating around about a new contract that would carry into 2011?
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Posted 16 April 2009 - 09:53 AM

View Poststump_breaker, on Feb 10 2009, 04:24 PM, said:

I really don't think it would be a wise move to put a V6 in a production Shelby regardless of power output.
Shelby epitomizes American V-8 muscle.



Hold on...these are the same guys that gave us that new rear end!

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 02:04 PM

View Poststump_breaker, on Feb 10 2009, 01:24 PM, said:

I really don't think it would be a wise move to put a V6 in a production Shelby regardless of power output.
Shelby epitomizes American V-8 muscle.



GLHS?
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 12:23 AM

View Postsocalwrench, on Apr 13 2009, 12:16 PM, said:

I often get asked what makes the basic foundation for a true muscle car. My answer:

1) Front Engine

2) Rear Wheel Drive (or All Wheel Drive that primarily uses the rear wheels)

3) 8 or more cylinders! (remember that the first 200ci Mustangs were considered Pony cars when they came out)

BTW, whenever Shelby builds a certain type of car (like the Terlingua)- you can bet that Ford will NOT follow the exact idea. Both companies want to have a certain niche of the performance market. Honestly, if you went to a dealership and saw a new 2010 Shelby Terlingua or a 2010 Ford Shelby GT350, most of use would buy the Terlingua because it's modified by Shelby Automobiles. So, don't plan on getting the GT350 name. However, you will probably get a "sport" version that uses the eco boost design (just years of Ford experience talking here).


Yep I agree if its a GT350 its got to be a rear wheel driven car with a V8. But a Ecoboost V6 would be great in a Terlingua it enhances a pretty good platform it could be a really good car that handles good has some power and is light to make up for the lack of a V8. I think Shelby owns the GT350 designation so it would be like with the GT500's probably a partnership with Ford and the Terlingua coming pretty much as a stand alone car from SAI. I'd really like to see the 5.0 liter motor putting out about 400Hp N/A in a Boss I know alot of folks that are really hoping that happens. But now its a matter of what they can get by CARB standards with I'd imagine.
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 04:53 AM

View Postingram4868, on Apr 13 2009, 01:22 PM, said:

We were originally advised by Amy that the SAI/Ford contract to produce a Shelby Mustang was good through 2010.

Has there been any info floating around about a new contract that would carry into 2011?


I thought they had a 6 year contract for use of the Shelby name. However I would be surprised if Ford ever build another car with SAI like the ShelbyGT or the GT500KR.

If a GT350 is built my guess is it will be a SAI converted Mustang GT done in house like the Terlingua.
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