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Not So Honest Ebay Sellers Dodge Enthusiasts Need To Be Careful

#1 User is offline   shelbymotorsports 

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 11:19 AM

With the old Chrysler Corporation pretty much gone, at least with anything to do with the Shelby cars, our main source of parts is going to eBay. While looking around eBay this morning I came across an auction for a Shelby modified speedometer that the seller claims came from a 1986 Shelby GLHS.

The seller puffs up their description with quotes like "Correct for 86 (Omni) GLHS", "The speedo was upgraded to 135 at the Shelby facility in California.", "1 of 500 cars made in this configuration, so you know it's rare getting rarer.", etc.

Well from the first glance I knew something was wrong as the 1986 Shelby GLHS speedometer was upgraded by SAI with yellow numerals for the above 85mph speeds and not white numerals that the sellers photos were showing.

Besides being in the wrong color the numbers are in the wrong type font. And if that wasn't enough the decal was applied incorrectly in correlation to the Mopar numbers.

In a nutshell the seller has a $10 Dodge Omni speedo that has had an incorrect aftermarket decal applied in the wrong position which is now being advertised as a rare speedo from one of the 500 Shelby GLHS cars manufactured by Shelby Automobiles.

So unless you know 100% on what you're bidding on, be smart and ask questions from other Shelby Dodge enthusiasts. Just because a seller says something doesn't always make it true. Just like the $355 GLHS fog lights that sold on ebay last week, although you could make them fit a GLHS, the fact is they were a over the counter universal fit fog light kit.

Lets be careful out there.

Steve

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#2 User is offline   shelbymotorsports 

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 12:26 PM

The first pic below is from the ebay auction. The second pic is from a correct 1986 GLHS.

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 01:45 PM

I asked him if he was sure it was an 86 GLHS cluster. We will see if it is ignored or bs'ed.
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Posted 18 May 2009 - 03:10 PM

Geeze what a catch!! I definitely wouldn't know the difference...
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Posted 18 May 2009 - 06:29 PM

I was considering bidding on that for my Rampage. I already got robbed a few years ago by a guy on TD when I tried to get one then. Can we get a nice pic of an 87 speedo to compare if someone tries this again?
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Posted 18 May 2009 - 06:38 PM

I just went over there and saw that he posted the question about it being an 86 speedo. He says he's seen both yellow and white numbers in 86. I remember hearing that 87 was white. Could this be an 87? Just want to verify with the experts before I report his item to ebay.
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Posted 18 May 2009 - 06:48 PM

View Postrare_ram, on May 18 2009, 07:38 PM, said:

I just went over there and saw that he posted the question about it being an 86 speedo. He says he's seen both yellow and white numbers in 86. I remember hearing that 87 was white. Could this be an 87? Just want to verify with the experts before I report his item to ebay.



Here's an '87 GLHS speedo

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 05:29 AM

HE said he has seen both white and yellow. Said the date on the cluster was Nov, 8, 1985. This makes no sense to me due to the 86 S cars being the last 500 of the GLH-Ts. Not that an earlier cluster couldn't have been used, but it seems odd to me.
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Posted 19 May 2009 - 06:40 AM

View PostGLHS0136, on May 18 2009, 07:48 PM, said:

Here's an '87 GLHS speedo


Yes this pic is indeed a 1987 speedo.

On the 1986 GLHS cars the decal had yellow numerals and went from 95-135 mph. On the 1987 GLHS cars the decal had white numerals that went from 95-125 mph.

It's impossible for a 1986 Shelby modified speedo to have a white numeral decal as that decal wasn't even produced when the 1986 cars were built.

As I mentioned earlier the seller has a regular Omni speedo that can have any date on it from the 1980's.

Steve

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 07:37 AM

I'm pretty sure someone made re-pops at one time.

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 08:22 AM

View Postshelbymotorsports, on May 19 2009, 10:40 AM, said:

Yes this pic is indeed a 1987 speedo.

On the 1986 GLHS cars the decal had yellow numerals and went from 95-135 mph. On the 1987 GLHS cars the decal had white numerals that went from 95-125 mph.

It's impossible for a 1986 Shelby modified speedo to have a white numeral decal as that decal wasn't even produced when the 1986 cars were built.

As I mentioned earlier the seller has a regular Omni speedo that can have any date on it from the 1980's.

Steve
Nov of 85 would have been in an 86 year model car, however, I doubt the last 500 would have had an early cluster. I also agree that the 86 cars had the yellow overlay(mine does)!!
Steve, that is what I was saying in the previous post.


View Postrare_ram, on May 19 2009, 11:37 AM, said:

I'm pretty sure someone made re-pops at one time.
They still are available. Even if it is a re-pop, it isn't the correct one for the 86(I know you know this). I agree, he is just trying to make more $$$$ by lying about what he has. D-bag. :censored:
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Posted 19 May 2009 - 11:12 AM

View Postblack86glhs, on May 19 2009, 12:22 PM, said:

Nov of 85 would have been in an 86 year model car, however, I doubt the last 500 would have had an early cluster. I also agree that the 86 cars had the yellow overlay(mine does)!!
Steve, that is what I was saying in the previous post.


They still are available. Even if it is a re-pop, it isn't the correct one for the 86(I know you know this). I agree, he is just trying to make more $$$$ by lying about what he has. D-bag. :censored:
While it is true that the last 1000 Shelby Chargers went to Whittier to be converted, I am not so sure that was the same with the 1986 GLH Turbo cars. The 86 cars were a production planned well in advance, while the 1987 cars were a "last minute" add on to the model year for Whittier which is why Shelby got the last 1000 of them.

The VIN lists seem to support this as the 86 GLHS VIN's cover a much larger area with sequential
VIN's scattered throughout. While the 87 GLHS VIN's are a tighter grouping with 10's and 20's of VIN's in sequential order all over.

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 12:57 PM

View Postsdac guy, on May 19 2009, 03:12 PM, said:

While it is true that the last 1000 Shelby Chargers went to Whittier to be converted, I am not so sure that was the same with the 1986 GLH Turbo cars. The 86 cars were a production planned well in advance, while the 1987 cars were a "last minute" add on to the model year for Whittier which is why Shelby got the last 1000 of them.

The VIN lists seem to support this as the 86 GLHS VIN's cover a much larger area with sequential
VIN's scattered throughout. While the 87 GLHS VIN's are a tighter grouping with 10's and 20's of VIN's in sequential order all over.

Barry
Thanks Barry. I had read they were the last 500 GLH-Ts. Interesting.
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Posted 25 May 2009 - 10:54 AM

I have a 135 speedo decal on my 86 Shelby Charger that looks alot like the one on ebay. I got mine from a Dodge dealer in the early 90's.

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 11:00 AM

So that means it's a Direct Connection piece, not Shelby.
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Posted 25 May 2009 - 02:10 PM

View Postrare_ram, on May 25 2009, 12:00 PM, said:

So that means it's a Direct Connection piece, not Shelby.


Not Direct Connection. Parts counter purchase. Depending on when purchased it could have come from Shelby Automobiles or from one of Chrysler's vendors.

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 09:29 AM

Just when you thought it was safe...............

Another Modified Speedo NOT From a GLHS

Uhh yeah I'm sure thats accurate. :lol:

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 01:23 PM

View Postshelbymotorsports, on May 28 2009, 10:29 AM, said:

Just when you thought it was safe...............

Another Modified Speedo NOT From a GLHS

Uhh yeah I'm sure thats accurate. :lol:

Steve


Yeah this one looks OEM for sure. :hysterical2: I may pick this one up as a spare!

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 01:43 PM

View Postshelbymotorsports, on May 25 2009, 06:10 PM, said:

Just when you thought it was safe...............

Another Modified Speedo NOT From a GLHS

Uhh yeah I'm sure thats accurate. laugh.gif

Steve

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HAHA a Canadian km/h cluster with a MPH overlay sticker...

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 01:48 PM

At least it's yellow. What a dumb a**.
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