[ebonyscgt500]

Have a question .....I'm planning on winter storage for my car....trying to decide if I should put the car up on jack stands and if I do , where should I place them.....had a close look under in front of the back wheel, and its hard to decide exactly where to put the jack stand. If you look closely at the location there is two options ....just inside towards the interior , directly on the main frame of the car , or where is the spot to use when jacking up the car .....it difficult to know where is the correct spot, with out doing damage. If anyone can provide me with clearer choice I would appreciate the info....

Thanks........

[JETSOLVER]

Do a search. There were a couple of long threads about this a month or so ago.

[SVTpower]

With todays radial tires, weight on the tires not too big of an issue anymore unlike bias..........however, if you want to lift the car, try to leave the suspension as is and not extended, therefore, rear under the axle tube at each end, and the front........at the control arms furthest way out is what I do.

This post has been edited by SVTpower: 31 December 2006 - 07:42 PM

[kincobra]

ebonyscgt500, on Nov 24 2006, 12:53 AM, said:

Have a question .....I'm planning on winter storage for my car....trying to decide if I should put the car up on jack stands and if I do , where should I place them.....had a close look under in front of the back wheel, and its hard to decide exactly where to put the jack stand. If you look closely at the location there is two options ....just inside towards the interior , directly on the main frame of the car , or where is the spot to use when jacking up the car .....it difficult to know where is the correct spot, with out doing damage. If anyone can provide me with clearer choice I would appreciate the info....

Thanks........

leave it on the ground!!!!!!!!!!! this is a subframe car do not put the stands under anything,this will make your frame shift.all you have to do is put plastic mats under the tire to keep the cement from touching your rubber tires and you will be fine.i have owned many muscle cars since 1981 and i have done this for poly glass tires and radial tires and have never had any problems in over 20 years.but stay away from metal stands under anything.hope this helps.

[ve4mm]

kincobra, on Dec 29 2006, 10:53 PM, said:

leave it on the ground!!!!!!!!!!! this is a subframe car do not put the stands under anything,this will make your frame shift.all you have to do is put plastic mats under the tire to keep the cement from touching your rubber tires and you will be fine.i have owned many muscle cars since 1981 and i have done this for poly glass tires and radial tires and have never had any problems in over 20 years.but stay away from metal stands under anything.hope this helps.

I agree!

Mike

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[shelby001]

Done the same thing Rubber pad or even rubber backed carpet works fine .

[Alloy Dave]

shelby001, on Dec 31 2006, 10:03 PM, said:

Done the same thing Rubber pad or even rubber backed carpet works fine .

How does that help?

[kincobra]

Alloy Dave, on Dec 31 2006, 10:59 PM, said:

How does that help?

humidity travels through the concrete in storage. the rubber mats or carpet with rubber backing stops or totally slows the humidity from travelling to the tires steel belts,thus keeping the steel belts healthy by blocking the humidity.which equals longer lasting rigidity of the tire.hope this helps!!!

[Grabber]

kincobra, on Dec 31 2006, 11:35 PM, said:

humidity travels through the concrete in storage. the rubber mats or carpet with rubber backing stops or totally slows the humidity from travelling to the tires steel belts,thus keeping the steel belts healthy by blocking the humidity.which equals longer lasting rigidity of the tire.hope this helps!!!

I agree with you. Here in the damp winter months in the Pacific NW the moisture comes up thru the concrete at times. Your idea of putting the moisture barrier down is a good one for sure. I bet that car bubble works good too, but it seems like a hassle to me, unless your going into deep storage for many months.

[Alloy Dave]

kincobra, on Jan 1 2007, 02:35 AM, said:

humidity travels through the concrete in storage. the rubber mats or carpet with rubber backing stops or totally slows the humidity from travelling to the tires steel belts,thus keeping the steel belts healthy by blocking the humidity.which equals longer lasting rigidity of the tire.hope this helps!!!

Thanks. Just wondered since I've had my '69 Camaro stored without any barrier under the tires since 1984 (I only drive it 500 miles/year) and I still have the same tires on it since 1984...with no steel belt problems. And since I worked as a technician for about 5-6 years and never saw a rusted steel belt, I am wondering where this is coming from....has anyone seen any documented evidence of such problems? Am I missing something?

Dave

[Grabber]

Alloy Dave, on Jan 1 2007, 08:53 AM, said:

Thanks. Just wondered since I've had my '69 Camaro stored without any barrier under the tires since 1984 (I only drive it 500 miles/year) and I still have the same tires on it since 1984...with no steel belt problems. And since I worked as a technician for about 5-6 years and never saw a rusted steel belt, I am wondering where this is coming from....has anyone seen any documented evidence of such problems? Am I missing something?

Dave

It is called "anal paranoia".

[Alloy Dave]

Grabber, on Jan 1 2007, 01:01 PM, said:

It is called "anal paranoia".

[carnut]

Alloy Dave, on Jan 1 2007, 09:53 AM, said:

Thanks. Just wondered since I've had my '69 Camaro stored without any barrier under the tires since 1984 (I only drive it 500 miles/year) and I still have the same tires on it since 1984...with no steel belt problems. And since I worked as a technician for about 5-6 years and never saw a rusted steel belt, I am wondering where this is coming from....has anyone seen any documented evidence of such problems? Am I missing something?

Dave

I have some Model T wheels and the original tires are gone. I know they were stored directly on dirt during the winter months. So maybe this the documentation you are looking for?

[SCGT500]

[Alloy Dave]

carnut, on Jan 1 2007, 02:45 PM, said:

I have some Model T wheels and the original tires are gone. I know they were stored directly on dirt during the winter months. So maybe this the documentation you are looking for?

That's what I'm saying....it will take several generations to ruin the tires via humidity.

[carnut]

Alloy Dave, on Jan 1 2007, 04:55 PM, said:

That's what I'm saying....it will take several generations to ruin the tires via humidity.

Glad I could help

[SCGT500]

carnut, on Jan 1 2007, 07:10 PM, said:

Glad I could help

You're just a wealth of information.

[07 Shelby Cobra]

SCGT500, on Jan 1 2007, 08:16 PM, said:

You're just a wealth of information.

I, and others that I know of in the Cold Climes of Canada, drive up onto 4" styrofoam blocks. Tires never flatten.

[Alloy Dave]

07 Shelby, on Jan 1 2007, 10:02 PM, said:

I, and others that I know of in the Cold Climes of Canada, drive up onto 4" styrofoam blocks. Tires never flatten.

Neither do mine...and I park on concrete.

[kincobra]

Alloy Dave, on Jan 1 2007, 10:10 PM, said:

Neither do mine...and I park on concrete.

the original question and answers are all under a canadian forum for all these replys,then you 'alloy dave' from goat country comes along with a totally different climate and thinks he knows it all. come on southern indiana does not have humidity like canada and the northern states,plus who the hell said that steel belts rust anyways-a figment of your imagination? .

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