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> Long tubes and cats in california. What are my options?
jamesb
post Aug 25 2009, 01:20 AM
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Title says it all really.
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post Aug 25 2009, 07:26 AM
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QUOTE (jamesb @ Aug 25 2009, 02:20 AM) *
Title says it all really.


Did you just move there?

The only option you have is to remove the headers for the smog test or try and find someone who will pass you for a little extra cash.

Otherwise you will fail smog on visual inspection.
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post Aug 25 2009, 07:45 AM
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Is the problem that you can't have long tubes or is it the high flow cats that don't clean the exhaust enough?
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post Aug 25 2009, 08:18 AM
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on an emission control vehicle in cali it is illegal to remove the OEM CATS unless they are proven defective, so there is really no way to legally put longtubes on without cats, legally.
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post Aug 25 2009, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE (svt boost @ Aug 25 2009, 09:18 AM) *
on an emission control vehicle in cali it is illegal to remove the OEM CATS unless they are proven defective, so there is really no way to legally put longtubes on without cats, legally.


Is it legal to *move* the cats? I.e. cut them off and weld them further back?
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post Aug 25 2009, 08:58 AM
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And failing that, are shorties legal in CA? I assume that tuned shorties are better than stock headers, even though they are not as good as LTs.
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post Aug 25 2009, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE (jamesb @ Aug 25 2009, 09:58 AM) *
And failing that, are shorties legal in CA? I assume that tuned shorties are better than stock headers, even though they are not as good as LTs.


You can use shorties IF they are CARB approved. There are several that are though so you can definitely go that way.
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post Aug 25 2009, 09:52 AM
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No, you can't touch the cats, move them or otherwise. So far, no one makes C.A.R.B. approved headers; shorties or long tubes. You might be able to get away with paying someone off once, but the smog check system that will be going on-line in the next few months will stop those "payoffs" because the smog technician now has to take and file digital photographs of the top and bottom of your engine compartment with Sacremento.

So to answer your question more directly, you don't have any legal options in California at this time.

This post has been edited by Son of GT: Aug 25 2009, 10:32 AM
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post Aug 25 2009, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE (jamesb @ Aug 25 2009, 02:20 AM) *
Title says it all really.


Put them on an enjoy them until your first SMOG test comes up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shift.gif) Then the hassle comes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Aug 25 2009, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE (svt boost @ Aug 25 2009, 11:18 AM) *
on an emission control vehicle in cali it is illegal to remove the OEM CATS unless they are proven defective, so there is really no way to legally put longtubes on without cats, legally.




So then, why don't you just damage your cats yourself? Then you can legally change them. Just a thought....
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post Aug 25 2009, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE (Son of GT @ Aug 25 2009, 10:52 AM) *
No, you can't touch the cats, move them or otherwise. So far, no one makes C.A.R.B. approved headers; shorties or long tubes. You might be able to get away with paying someone off once, but the smog check system that will be going on-line in the next few months will stop those "payoffs" because the smog technician now has to take and file digital photographs of the top and bottom of your engine compartment with Sacremento.

So to answer your question more directly, you don't have any legal options in California at this time.


There are companies that make CARB approved headers but only shorties.

http://www.bmcspeedshop.com/product_p/edl-65052.htm

Edit: I'm not sure if they make them for the GT500 yet... didn't see any available so maybe there aren't any for the GT500.

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post Aug 25 2009, 11:17 AM
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All the more reason for the big 9.9 to hit Kalifornia. Been there 3 times and you couldn't pay me enough to go back!
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post Aug 25 2009, 01:35 PM
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All the more reason for the big 9.9 to hit Kalifornia. Been there 3 times and you couldn't pay me enough to go back!

I couldn't imagine living in such a POS state.
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post Aug 25 2009, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE (Imatk @ Aug 25 2009, 11:58 AM) *
There are companies that make CARB approved headers but only shorties.

http://www.bmcspeedshop.com/product_p/edl-65052.htm

Edit: I'm not sure if they make them for the GT500 yet... didn't see any available so maybe there aren't any for the GT500.

None for the GT500...yet.

QUOTE (Grunnsetning @ Aug 25 2009, 02:35 PM) *
I couldn't imagine living in such a POS state.

Tell me about it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif)
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post Aug 25 2009, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE (mobeydick @ Aug 25 2009, 12:17 PM) *
All the more reason for the big 9.9 to hit Kalifornia. Been there 3 times and you couldn't pay me enough to go back!


ah come on, there are some nice people here....like...me! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hysterical.gif)


QUOTE (Grunnsetning @ Aug 25 2009, 02:35 PM) *
I couldn't imagine living in such a POS state.


yep, sure is... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/censored.gif)
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post Aug 25 2009, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE (Grunnsetning @ Aug 25 2009, 02:35 PM) *
I couldn't imagine living in such a POS state.

Wow, that's teed up pretty high, but we'll just have to let that one pass...
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post Aug 25 2009, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE (Son of GT @ Aug 25 2009, 10:52 AM) *
No, you can't touch the cats, move them or otherwise. So far, no one makes C.A.R.B. approved headers; shorties or long tubes. You might be able to get away with paying someone off once, but the smog check system that will be going on-line in the next few months will stop those "payoffs" because the smog technician now has to take and file digital photographs of the top and bottom of your engine compartment with Sacremento.

So to answer your question more directly, you don't have any legal options in California at this time.


That shiny IW OD pulley might be a bit obvious then :-) Guess I'm moving in a few years :-)
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post Aug 25 2009, 06:00 PM
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Just watched this install video. Damn thats a PITA.

DDD Kooks install
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QUOTE (Grunnsetning @ Aug 25 2009, 02:35 PM) *
I couldn't imagine living in such a POS state.


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California isn't that bad.
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