[redwingone]

http://www.youtube.c...player_embedded

well if it makes you feel any better check out the zo6 smoke the gallardo. although i kinda think the lambo driver isn"t that good.
shelbys still rock.

[GT500Tow]

jamie392, on Oct 22 2009, 01:02 PM, said:

You guys are starting to sound like the Corvette forum posters. Seriously they are both american made cars, the "hate" towards other car owners or cars is really sad. Go look at the corvette froums they post the same type of crap. The reason I like this forum was the open minded people who typically post and dont feel the need to bash other cars or drivers. since I own a Z06 and a GT-500, well till last week at least, I can tell you first hand, they both are great cars imho, and untill you have driven a Z06 you might want to reconsider your expert knowledge.

Since when is the truth "HATE". That's if you were referring to me. Been to the track probably twenty times and i just said what i experienced. As i said they wanted to line up with me. I didn't ever say anything unkind to anyone I've ever raced. Win or lose. They just picked the wrong GT500 to race. Many drivers don't have enough experience to drive a high HP manual trans car of any make or model. Oh and the Ford verses Chevy has been around for ever and will never go away. I didn't bash them. I just out ran-em........and gave MHO of how it went down. Yes i drove a Z before i bought my Shelby. I'm very happy with my purchase. I get a big grin every single time i out run a Z.

[19Maddog64]

There is one thing that will help all these high powered Shelby's beat the Z06. I had the same problem with my first one and have been working to adjust it out of my '09. It takes a lot of work but can be done. Proper adjustment of the nut behind the steering wheel will make a modified GT500 outrun the Corvette.

[2kgt281]

19Maddog64, on Oct 24 2009, 06:56 PM, said:

Proper adjustment of the nut behind the steering wheel will make a modified GT500 outrun the Corvette.

Thats the most difficult nut on these cars to adjust, someone needs to make a wrench for it!

[dragpac]

most GT500 owners don't realize that a shelby is more of a drag car than a road car.the zo6 is a road ,car so when you race from 40 on the advantage goes to the vette.if you can drive your car well and with the right tires your sweet spot is from a dead stop at the track.on the street 2nd gear from a very low roll,maybe 20mph

[LongNap]

So yesterday I stop by my tuner and we talked about this same thing. Once you get to about 700whp you will be able to take just about anything made (stock). Unless you go all out... I mean wide open to the end the Z06 will not beat a 700whp GT500. On the top end it will take you but from a 60mph roll up to 170 or so you will walk on him.

The problem is there's a ton of video out there with Z's taken that they claim is a GT500 Kennybell but it's always the guy in the Z06 taken the video and you never see them talking before or after the race or see under the hood and of course it's always at night!

So it would be like me finding a Z on the road and shooting a video and then saying the car I was racing was a Z06 running twin turbos and look how bad I spanked him! Kinda like this video with a KB running 12psi! Who in the world would install a KB running just 12psi??

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=UsoN157-M00

One of us just needs to get on a local Z06 board and put together a race! Make a video and answer the question at hand (what does it take to out run a stock z06 on the street).

On the other hand... My tuner has a car that will eat one alive and it could be driven to work everyday and on the weekends. He's running a KB with cams and some other work but is putting down over 865whp. He's currently working on a twin turbo GT500 which should put down over a 1000whp.

http://videos.street...0-at_644090.htm

D.

[rlhay2]

No need to denounce the Corvette as I do like them. I like lots of cars of various makes. Even plan on picking up a low mileage '10 Grand Sport in the near future (keeping the Shelby of course!)

As for outrunning a stock Z06:
1. good tires
2. driver mod or gears

To outrun a heads and cam Z06:
1. driver mod
2. good tires
3. gears
4. aftermarket S/C

[frazierfreud]

LongNap, on Oct 25 2009, 05:09 AM, said:

So yesterday I stop by my tuner and we talked about this same thing. Once you get to about 700whp you will be able to take just about anything made (stock). Unless you go all out... I mean wide open to the end the Z06 will not beat a 700whp GT500. On the top end it will take you but from a 60mph roll up to 170 or so you will walk on him.

The problem is there's a ton of video out there with Z's taken that they claim is a GT500 Kennybell but it's always the guy in the Z06 taken the video and you never see them talking before or after the race or see under the hood and of course it's always at night!

So it would be like me finding a Z on the road and shooting a video and then saying the car I was racing was a Z06 running twin turbos and look how bad I spanked him! Kinda like this video with a KB running 12psi! Who in the world would install a KB running just 12psi??

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=UsoN157-M00

One of us just needs to get on a local Z06 board and put together a race! Make a video and answer the question at hand (what does it take to out run a stock z06 on the street).

On the other hand... My tuner has a car that will eat one alive and it could be driven to work everyday and on the weekends. He's running a KB with cams and some other work but is putting down over 865whp. He's currently working on a twin turbo GT500 which should put down over a 1000whp.

http://videos.street...0-at_644090.htm

D.

i think we have the same tuner. josh at autograf?

[svttim]

ChipBeck, on Oct 21 2009, 04:22 PM, said:

Gentlemen,

There is a lot more to this than just horsepower and weight. The type of race you are running might make wind resistance and weight distribution huge factors. From a standing start, the 58% front, 42% rear, weight distribution of the GT500 is a huge negative. My supercharged Shelby GT has about the same amount of horsepower as my GT500. Yet the Shelby GT with its 53 % front, 47 % rear, weight distribution allows it to easily annihilate my GT500 from a standing start because it hooks up so much better. It also weighs several hundred pounds less than my GT500. The Z06 has a 50-50 weight distribution that gives it a huge advantage from a standing start. In a roll on race from about 30 miles an hour, that traction advantage goes away but once you hit about 80 miles an hour, aerodynamics start to play a big role as wind resistance goes up to the square of speed.

The ZO6's combination of lightweight, 50-50 weight distribution, and great aerodynamics puts our Mustangs at a huge disadvantage in most speed contests. The best crack at a win for our cars would be in a 30mph to 90mph dash. Using similar tires, there is no way you'll ever beat one across an intersection from a standing start unless the Corvette driver is asleep at the switch. I ran the Texas Mile last week and I can assure you that you'll never beat one in the standing mile either unless you have a tremendous horsepower advantage, probably 300 or 400+ HP over the Corvette. At 180 mph the aerodynamics of the Mustang are abysmal. So, I like Corvettes right? WRONG!!!! I'd never own one any longer than it would take me to trade it for another Mustang.

There's a lot more to a Shelby Automobile than statistics. History, heritage, soul, and desire have made Shelby Mustangs a focal point of desire for me since I was a small child. When I crawl into the seat of my GT500 and turn the key, over 500hp and 40 years of history take me from zero to 1965 and the fulfillment of a lifelong dream, in five seconds.

When I want to annihilate a Z06 or a ZR1, I leave my white car with blue stripes up on the lift in my garage, and I take out the yellow one with black stripes. All the best.

Chip

One_to_win.jpg

Spot on post! Yes, they can be beat, but it takes a lot of work. Be interesting to see what happens when the Aluminum block makes its debut. But, the Corvette is the best bang for the buck for a sports car. And While I wouldnt buy one, Its an American car that can challenge anything in the world. Now If I could afford a GT

[VTWLKWY]

pretty easy to beat a z06.. twin turbo shelby.. yes it lives.. and works.. Fred limited me to 960 at the back. just took the first cruise.. like hazing the tires at 100.. easy..Pete

[SlwSVT]

dragpac, on Oct 25 2009, 01:09 AM, said:

most GT500 owners don't realize that a shelby is more of a drag car than a road car.the zo6 is a road ,car so when you race from 40 on the advantage goes to the vette.if you can drive your car well and with the right tires your sweet spot is from a dead stop at the track.on the street 2nd gear from a very low roll,maybe 20mph

Actually, the Z06 has almost a 50/50 weight distribution and it with both cars on stock tires will outlaunch the GT500 easily. Just for the record, I have both cars with my Shelby making 730rwhp and my Z just under 500rwhp.

[LongNap]

frazierfreud, on Oct 25 2009, 08:54 AM, said:

i think we have the same tuner. josh at autograf?

That's the guy... PM me with your info and we can chat sometime.

David.

[LongNap]

SlwSVT, on Oct 25 2009, 11:47 AM, said:

Actually, the Z06 has almost a 50/50 weight distribution and it with both cars on stock tires will outlaunch the GT500 easily. Just for the record, I have both cars with my Shelby making 730rwhp and my Z just under 500rwhp.

Cool so you can answer the question at hand then!?

Please include the year of your Z along with the mods done on her.

So from a 60 - 70 mph roll with both of your cars side by side, how does the Shelby compare??

Please be honest and don't worry about anyone flaming you if your answer isnt the Shelby running. We are all big man on here and I for one would like an honest answer.

Thanks,
David.