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Kenny Bell on SGT Input needed Stage 1 or Stage 2

#1 User is offline   SGT3131 

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 06:56 AM

Hi All,

As we get very close to adding the supercharger and doing some homework I find myself leaning to the Kenny Bell. If anyone has this installed I would appreciate your candid feedback as to the pros and cons of the Kenny Bell verses the whipple.

I have looked at the Stage 1 and Stage 2 both with the understanding that there is only so much boost and RPM before the short block will need to be built if I intend on driving the car hard as I currently do.

Has anyone had Quataum perform the KB install?

Has anyone had the stage 2 installed and if so where did your air filter end up, I.E. in the fender well or under the hood. I understand KB likes the in the fender type for best cooling and performance.

Has anyone swapped the shelby cooling kit for the kennybell intercooler and if so are you impressed with the fdifference and the cost of the shelby kit.

Any feedback on the stage 1 or 2 would be appreciated.

Thanks for the input.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:40 AM

Billy,

I have the KB on mine. The good news is that you cannot make a mistake no matter which power adder you use. I went with the KB and not the Whipple because, for me, the Whipple belongs to the GT500 guys. I know the KB is on the Super Snake but those are rare birds (snakes?).

One of the things that put me into the KB camp is how they get air to the engine. They get it from the outside and as low as possible (in the fender well). Every other brand gets it from under the hood, like our standard SGT set up. Add to that having it installed at SAI (that means something to me) and it was an easy choice.

I am getting, but have not gotten, the Revan Racing/Shelby cooling. If you track your car, you will need it pretty much anywhere you live. If you do not plan to track it, I would wait and see.

Good luck with making your decision. You will love whatever you get.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 09:48 AM

Another KB owner here.

I think the KB and the Whipple are both great superchargers. I have the KB because the Whipple wasn't available at the time. I have no regrets. It's as good as Jim mentioned plus it sits lower for a slightly lower center of gravity and it allows the use of a strut tower bar.

The KB stage 2 is a throttle body and a tune, so the air filter stays in front of the passenger front wheel. (I have the stage 1 so I can't tell you about the difference.)

I had mine installed at Quantum - the best in workmanship and customer service!

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 01:02 PM

Hey Dig-It,
My SGT is at SAI getting the KB. I was curious, I had spoke to Bud in the Mod shop and he told me that I loose the strut tower brace with the Mod. I want to have that WITH the KB, can you tell me how or what you used? Since I have NEVER driven my car :banghead: ( am currently in Iraq) but have read many posts here about the stiffness added, I know that I want it. Thanks for your help.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 01:45 PM

View PostMARINESPEED, on Oct 26 2009, 04:02 PM, said:

Hey Dig-It,
My SGT is at SAI getting the KB. I was curious, I had spoke to Bud in the Mod shop and he told me that I loose the strut tower brace with the Mod. I want to have that WITH the KB, can you tell me how or what you used? Since I have NEVER driven my car :banghead: ( am currently in Iraq) but have read many posts here about the stiffness added, I know that I want it. Thanks for your help.

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I am planning on the KB. I have been told and read somewhere here, that the CS6 Strut bar fits and clears the KB. Someone can verify this please.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 01:54 PM

View PostMARINESPEED, on Oct 26 2009, 05:02 PM, said:

Hey Dig-It,
My SGT is at SAI getting the KB. I was curious, I had spoke to Bud in the Mod shop and he told me that I loose the strut tower brace with the Mod. I want to have that WITH the KB, can you tell me how or what you used? Since I have NEVER driven my car :banghead: ( am currently in Iraq) but have read many posts here about the stiffness added, I know that I want it. Thanks for your help.

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I have the FRPP Bullitt/V6 strut tower bar - FRPP p/n M-20201-F.

Funny, I ordered my SGT during my first tour over there with MNF-W (USN RIVRON ONE).

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:03 PM

I have the stage II, it's awesome, I also have the brace and fits well.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:42 PM

Check my signature and you will see the strut tower brace referred to by Kevin (Dig-It) and Rick (pottydr). It fits just fine.

Jim
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:56 PM

View PostDig-It, on Oct 26 2009, 05:54 PM, said:

I have the FRPP Bullitt/V6 strut tower bar - FRPP p/n M-20201-F.

Funny, I ordered my SGT during my first tour over there with MNF-W (USN RIVRON ONE).


Nice! I wish that brace fit the Whipple...
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 03:15 PM

me too.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 03:40 PM

Go for the max HP! Shortblocks are not that expensive.... :hysterical:


Seriously, if FRPP can do a 550 kit I'd get anything up to that point...FRPP is not going to put out a engine exploding tune...no warranty true but mine is runing great and I drive it...
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 03:43 PM

Congrats, you will be happy with either!!!! I went with the Whipple 550 because I felt it was a better package (GT500 fuel pump instead of boost-a-pump for example) and Tasca had a deal at the time a few of us took advantage of that made the Whipple Package less expensive.

I have no regrets, love it!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 03:46 PM

View PostSGT/SC#0471, on Oct 26 2009, 07:40 PM, said:

Go for the max HP! Shortblocks are not that expensive.... :hysterical:


Seriously, if FRPP can do a 550 kit I'd get anything up to that point...FRPP is not going to put out a engine exploding tune...no warranty true but mine is runing great and I drive it...


That was my thought also, as long as your doing it, go all the way. That is why I added the Drive Shaft as well. Only thing left is the clutch, but I might as well burn mine out first..............
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 04:06 PM

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions. Good Stuff!

I'm sure leaning on the stage 2. Actually I had planned on staying with the black blower and going with black valve covers until I saw the pictures with all the chrome. Pretty neat deal.

I guess I'll let my pocketbook be the decision maker on the chrome verse black. I think it is about 500 or 600 more for the chrome (polished).

While I would like to send my car to SAI I live just about 5 hours from Dallas and Qautaum. I spoke with the Q guys at the mid-amercia meet in tulsa and was very pleased with thier follow up calls and emails. I have heard good things about that group.

I plan to have this done in December as it will be then before I can get enough time to get the car there. Given a few more savings by then I may just have them do a few extras. For sure when the time arrives and we get this deal done I'll post the results with pics.

Once again thanks for all the input.

For you guys doing the "I and A" deal right now my heart and prayers are with you. I'm an oldie that was in "V" and 82nd airborne.

Thanks,
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 04:21 PM

Whipple 550HO going in mine Nov. 14th ( I hope)

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 04:31 PM

Whipple 550 ---I thought the 550 was the hsp at the crank.....found out later it actually stands for smiles per minute....LOVE IT...

I owe Kevin (aka Dig-It) a little something the next time I see him....he took advantage of me w/ his KB when I was still NA...NO Kevin, I haven't forgot! :hysterical: No matter which one you go w/ you will not make a wrong decsion either way. QP guys are great! :shift: Craig

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 04:46 PM

View PostSGT3131, on Oct 26 2009, 07:06 PM, said:

I spoke with the Q guys at the mid-amercia meet in tulsa and was very pleased with thier follow up calls and emails. I have heard good things about that group.


Good Luck!! At least they returned your e-mail and calls!! I e-mailed them twice and left message...NO RETURN..So I guess they didn't want my money.

I will either ship to SAI or Do it myself at my Shop. Leaning towards my Shop (registry is not important to me)

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 05:12 PM

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Whipple 550 ---I thought the 550 was the hsp at the crank.....found out later it actually stands for smiles per minute....LOVE IT...

I owe Kevin (aka Dig-It) a little something the next time I see him....he took advantage of me w/ his KB when I was still NA...NO Kevin, I haven't forgot! :hysterical: No matter which one you go w/ you will not make a wrong decsion either way. QP guys are great! :shift: Craig

I never told you it wasn't supercharged. I had the SGT/SC stripes on the sides. And didn't we have the hoods popped open at Carl's? Speaking of which - "Don't make me get Carl!!!" :hysterical:

Either way, next time you'll have the SC so you better bring your 'A' game! Let's just agree that "next time" isn't a long time away! How about next spring?
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 05:58 PM

View PostDig-It, on Oct 26 2009, 09:12 PM, said:

I never told you it wasn't supercharged. I had the SGT/SC stripes on the sides. And didn't we have the hoods popped open at Carl's? Speaking of which - "Don't make me get Carl!!!" :hysterical:

Either way, next time you'll have the SC so you better bring your 'A' game! Let's just agree that "next time" isn't a long time away! How about next spring?

OMG, please don't call CARL! :finger: Anything but that....I apologize and yes we did have the hoods up.....Next spring sounds great...hopefully you'll have a little more "free" time then.
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 07:04 PM

So I looking at instaling the KB. Does anyone know if any special modifications or cutting is needed? I looked at some pics on the KB website and since theair is drawn from the bottom, it appears that you might have to cut some engine sheet metal and remove the front fasia.
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