Fort Hood Shooting ( sad ) Options

[JCSESI]

SO,
What is the Solution, to Radical Muslim's, living among us, here in the United States?


Is this what WE, want for America?
Or do WE, finally, historically, understand that ALL Religions, have had, their own, 'Wack-o Fundamentalists believers', that have distorted their respective Religion's, to do Violence against their fellow man.

Religious freedom is a good thing and I support that (even though Christianity is the only real truth), but we cant give Muslims so much "religious freedom" that they wipe the rest of us out. Respect (which is really what religious freedom boils down to) is a two way street. When someones "freedom" starts harming someone else we have a duty to humanity to stop it. If Muslims will pratice in peace then welcome.. This isn't an attack on the Muslim religion, this is self defense against radical Isalam. We go after radical Christians or any other religion once it gets out of hand to. I think everyone understands any movement or group has wack-os, but not all practice Violence like this. As well, we aren't talking about a group of a few hundred or anything like has become expected. We are talking about a huge population that hate this country and live to commit violence against it.

[sharabi]

Religious freedom is a good thing and I support that (even though Christianity is the only real truth), but we cant give Muslims so much "religious freedom" that they wipe the rest of us out. Respect (which is really what religious freedom boils down to) is a two way street. When someones "freedom" starts harming someone else we have a duty to humanity to stop it. If Muslims will pratice in peace then welcome.. This isn't an attack on the Muslim religion, this is self defense against radical Isalam. We go after radical Christians or any other religion once it gets out of hand to. I think everyone understands any movement or group has wack-os, but not all practice Violence like this. As well, we aren't talking about a group of a few hundred or anything like has become expected. We are talking about a huge population that hate this country and live to commit violence against it.

i came from middle east...i was born there and i know how they think. It is very simple to win their hearts...JUSTICE. that is all it takes to win their hearts...not bombs, not siding blindly with one side against the other even if that side is doing atrocities like the Zionists against Palestinians...Palestinians are so pushed to the corner that they moved from stones to wack-os stuff like what we see in the news...you cannot push some one so much and not see a backlash...IT DOES NOT JUSTIFIES VIOLENCE THOUGH...and am under no way justifying violence ..lets make that as clear as the sun. But am describing facts.
If this Rabbi is saying the same then may be it is better heard from him than me.
Muslims are peaceful people...radicals are the make of CIA,MOSSAD, KGB,...etc
they breed them to form an opinion against true believers who are peaceful and to achieve political agenda...once Russia uses them then US then they wipe them out...so forth.
That Rabbi went all the way to say that they should apologize to Muslims for the atrocities committed against them. That is why we educated Muslims do differentiate between religion and politics. Muslims are god fearing religious people just like god fearing Christians and god fearing Jews.
I feel that rabbi in my heart and i respect him the same way i respect a knowledgeable cleric from my religion!

Here is the link ....please spare few minutes to listen to what he says:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9OIqy6md9w

[Snake Doctor]

i came from middle east...i was born there and i know how they think. It is very simple to win their hearts...JUSTICE. that is all it takes to win their hearts...not bombs, not siding blindly with one side against the other even if that side is doing atrocities like the Zionists against Palestinians...Palestinians are so pushed to the corner that they moved from stones to wack-os stuff like what we see in the news...you cannot push some one so much and not see a backlash...IT DOES NOT JUSTIFIES VIOLENCE THOUGH...and am under no way justifying violence ..lets make that as clear as the sun. But am describing facts.
If this Rabbi is saying the same then may be it is better heard from him than me.
Muslims are peaceful people...radicals are the make of CIA,MOSSAD, KGB,...etc
they breed them to form an opinion against true believers who are peaceful and to achieve political agenda...once Russia uses them then US then they wipe them out...so forth.
That Rabbi went all the way to say that they should apologize to Muslims for the atrocities committed against them. That is why we educated Muslims do differentiate between religion and politics. Muslims are god fearing religious people just like god fearing Christians and god fearing Jews.
I feel that rabbi in my heart and i respect him the same way i respect a knowledgeable cleric from my religion!

Here is the link ....please spare few minutes to listen to what he says:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9OIqy6md9w

Apparently not fearing enough, because we capitalize God.

[svttim]

i came from middle east...i was born there and i know how they think. It is very simple to win their hearts...JUSTICE. that is all it takes to win their hearts...not bombs, not siding blindly with one side against the other even if that side is doing atrocities like the Zionists against Palestinians...Palestinians are so pushed to the corner that they moved from stones to wack-os stuff like what we see in the news...you cannot push some one so much and not see a backlash...IT DOES NOT JUSTIFIES VIOLENCE THOUGH...and am under no way justifying violence ..lets make that as clear as the sun. But am describing facts.
If this Rabbi is saying the same then may be it is better heard from him than me.
Muslims are peaceful people...radicals are the make of CIA,MOSSAD, KGB,...etc
they breed them to form an opinion against true believers who are peaceful and to achieve political agenda...once Russia uses them then US then they wipe them out...so forth.
That Rabbi went all the way to say that they should apologize to Muslims for the atrocities committed against them. That is why we educated Muslims do differentiate between religion and politics. Muslims are god fearing religious people just like god fearing Christians and god fearing Jews.
I feel that rabbi in my heart and i respect him the same way i respect a knowledgeable cleric from my religion!

Here is the link ....please spare few minutes to listen to what he says:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9OIqy6md9w

I will not pretend to understand the middle east or the plight of the Palestinians. But, I do know there are twos sides to ever story, sometimes more. You spew hate at Isreal, it will get you no where here. I am not saying that Isreal has not done things that they shouldnt have, because I believe they have. I am saying the Palestinians have also done wrong. They certainly could have thier own homeland by now. All they have to do is garrantee the existance of Israel. Why dont they?? Its not the CIA or Masad or even the KGB. Its Hamas! They want Israel whiped off the map. Despite the fact that Obama could care less if it were to happen, there are still too many in the US that wont let it happen. Who started the 73 war Sharabi?

[JCSESI]

Until God himself says he changed his mind I am sticking with the Bible and supporting Isreal. Not sure I can get my head around how anybody could think God (or their god) would want an existance wiped out......and I really dont think souls are saved based on geographical lines so why is this Palestine fight considered to be religious???

[ilmor]

From a RealClearPolitics.com article today.....

Christianity was founded by a pacifist carpenter. The new testament was written about him but not by him.

Islam was founded by a vicious warlord. The Koran was written by him, not as a philosophic act rejecting his previous life of violence, but while he was engaged in that violence. His writings were hardly going to condemn his brutality and instead lauded and "justified" it.

Since Islam was developed to support Mohammed's government, it is an inextricable combination of religion, political philosophy and system of government. It is not just a religion, it is much more encompassing, and therefore poses a greater danger to those who do not accept it.

You can't reject the Koran without rejecting Mohammed and you can't reject Mohammed without rejecting the "religion" he founded, one that was built on violence and extols violence. If you follow the "religion", you accept him as founder and the principles he laid down, including violence.

Anyone who emulates Jesus is no threat to his fellow man - whatever their religious or other affiliations. Anyone who emulates Mohammed is necessarily a threat to others with different beliefs.

Whatever nonsense is spouted about Islam as a "religion of peace", it can never be that as long as there are non-Muslims in the world. "Moderate" Muslims are enablers of this violence, even if they do not act directly themselves.

One of the great errors of President Bush was to not articulate that Islam is the enemy of the United States and the West, not because the US chose Islam as an enemy but just the reverse, ie because of the inherent predatory nature of Islam that has lead its adherents to attack the US. In failing to make this case, he left the way open for the PC media and his successor to continue to provide cover to the violence of Islam.

All those politicians, bureaucrats, academics, media monkeys and yes, unfortunately, members of the military, who provide this cover are complicit in the murder of these soldiers at Fort Hood and all other murders of non-Muslims by Islamists.

[BLOWN]

Was listening to Michael Savage for a short time and he was saying that Hasan's Buisness cards said " Solider of ALLAH" on the backs of his buisness cards,I have a link check it out.



http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,574546,00.html

[sharabi]

I will not pretend to understand the middle east or the plight of the Palestinians. But, I do know there are twos sides to ever story, sometimes more. You spew hate at Isreal, it will get you no where here. I am not saying that Isreal has not done things that they shouldnt have, because I believe they have. I am saying the Palestinians have also done wrong. They certainly could have thier own homeland by now. All they have to do is garrantee the existance of Israel. Why dont they?? Its not the CIA or Masad or even the KGB. Its Hamas! They want Israel whiped off the map. Despite the fact that Obama could care less if it were to happen, there are still too many in the US that wont let it happen. Who started the 73 war Sharabi?

that Rabbi was calling for PEACEFUL dismantling of Israel...i repeated what he said because i agree with him on that issue...I agree with him that Judaism is different than Zionism ...Judaism is a religion i believe in and i respect...Zionism is a POLITICAL movement i have no respect to it at all...So is he a hater too....Did you hear what he said?
I will spend some time typing what he said so if you are deaf I hope you are not blind too.

The link again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9OIqy6md9w

[sharabi]

Apparently not fearing enough, because we capitalize God.

You capitalize on God?....in what sense, i did not get it Doc?, coz i definitely do not!

[sharabi]

I will not pretend to understand the middle east or the plight of the Palestinians. But, I do know there are twos sides to ever story, sometimes more. You spew hate at Isreal, it will get you no where here. I am not saying that Isreal has not done things that they shouldnt have, because I believe they have. I am saying the Palestinians have also done wrong. They certainly could have thier own homeland by now. All they have to do is garrantee the existance of Israel. Why dont they?? Its not the CIA or Masad or even the KGB. Its Hamas! They want Israel whiped off the map. Despite the fact that Obama could care less if it were to happen, there are still too many in the US that wont let it happen. Who started the 73 war Sharabi?

that what he starts his statement with:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9OIqy6md9w

WE GO PRAY TO GOD EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR A SPEEDY AND PEACEFUL DISMANTELMENT OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL

Now he is a Jew , a Rabbi, and of knowledge....he had another rabbi with him that lived in peace with Muslims for years and years in Jerusalem prior to the Zionist movement and he said himself not me that they never had and problem whatsoever with Muslim neighbors, and that they shared holidays together, so how dare you lie and say that we Muslims hate Jews, WE DO NOT HATE PERIOD...I WILL SAY IT OVER AND OVER UNTIL IT OPENS THE WAX THAT IS BLOCKING YOUR EARS AND CLEAR THAT FILM THAT BLOCKING YOUR EYES AND THE DARK BARRIER THAT BLOCKING YOUR HEART....we Muslims do not hate because we are confident of our mind and heart that lead us to that great religion ISLAM!

This post has been edited by sharabi: Nov 13 2009, 04:06 PM

[sharabi]

Am out this thread too....pretty much said what i wanted to say! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shift.gif)

[07-2937]

QUOTE (07-2937 @ Nov 13 2009, 10:05 AM)
THIS TIME I AM COMING RIGHT AT YOU
YOU FAIL TO REALIZE THAT YOUR RELIGION IS A MOTIVATOR FOR RADICALS, YOU USE EXCUSES LIKE CIA AND MOSSAD OR FBI TO SAY THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR 911 AND SUICIDE BOMBINGS.
YOU BELIEVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE PROVEN FACTS
YOU CANNOT QUESTION YOUR RELIGION FOR IF YOU DO YOU ARE IN CONTEMPT AND MAY FACE THE FIRE
YOU MAKE STATEMENTS CONTRARY TO YOUR BELIEFS
YOU DONT ACCEPT THAT SOME MUSLIM SCHOLARS AND IMMANS TEACH AND INCITE VIOLENCE
YOU CLAIM IM AN ISLAM HATER I AM A REALIST
YOU DONT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT 96%OF MODERN TERRORIST GROUPS ARE ISLAMIC
YOU HAVE SEEN ONLY THE "BEAUTY OF YOUR RELIGION DISREGARDING THE DARK SIDE
YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE THE CONFLICT WITH YOUR RELIGION AND LIVING AMONGST US

YOU KEEP MAKING STATMENTS AND START POSTS TO FURTHER YOUR AGENDA WELL I WILL REMAIN VIGILANT AGAINST THE LIES AND PROPAGANDA.
I AM NOT A TOTAL HATER I AM A WELL EDUCATED PERSON BOTH IN EXPERIENCE AND SCHOOLING UNLIKE 70+% OF THE ISLAMIC SOCIETY. IF ANYTHING THIS HAS OPENED MY EYES AND INCREASED MY KNOWLEDGE ABOUT YOUR RELIGION.

WACKO

[svttim]

that Rabbi was calling for PEACEFUL dismantling of Israel...i repeated what he said because i agree with him on that issue...I agree with him that Judaism is different than Zionism ...Judaism is a religion i believe in and i respect...Zionism is a POLITICAL movement i have no respect to it at all...So is he a hater too....Did you hear what he said?
I will spend some time typing what he said so if you are deaf I hope you are not blind too.

The link again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9OIqy6md9w

Hmmm, I'm not sure what this has to do with my statement. Im neither blind nor death but, Im am starting to wonder if your heart is blind

This post has been edited by svttim: Nov 13 2009, 05:03 PM

[DDT]

What Religious Faiths can be seperated from Politics, Territorial Conflict, and Rationalizing
or Justifying Aggression??????????

The ones that bring true peace and love for all people??????????

[BLOWN]

This post has been edited by BLOWN: Nov 14 2009, 11:36 PM

[svttim]

What Religious Faiths can be seperated from Politics, Territorial Conflict, and Rationalizing
or Justifying Aggression??????????

The ones that bring true peace and love for all people??????????

I think we were doing well with that right here in the US, until lately

[Snake Doctor]

Am out this thread too....pretty much said what i wanted to say! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shift.gif)

And there's that Modus Operandi working again.

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