[jared@lethal]

Lethal Performance is proud to announce the new AFCO Pro-Series Dual Pass Heat Exchanger with DUAL 10" Spal Fans. IN STOCK AND NOW SHIPPING

http://www.lethalper...10-fans-p-30474


NEW AFCO UNIT WITH FANS


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NEW AFCO WIH FANS COMPARED TO THE ORIGINAL AFCO WITHOUT FANS


As many know we were the ones to introduce the AFCO dual pass heat exchanger to the GT500 market. AFCO approached us several weeks ago letting us know that they've finally put together an upgraded unit with dual fans. They obviously know how important it is to keep up with the demand that our customers look for. As we've seen the dual fan heat exchanger has become a very popular unit. Continuous air across the fins of the heat exchanger help in lowering inlet air temps. This will also prevent you from losing power due to heat soak. The addition of (2) 10" Spal fans along with a larger core means business. This will be the largest heat exchanger for the 07-10 GT500 to this date.

If anyone has seen an AFCO product you know it's of the highest quality. The cores, welds and design are used in many high performance applications for both street and track use.

Lethal Performance has locked up the entire first batch and we're giving all of our customers a first shot at purchasing them. We expect to have them available by the end of this month. If you're on our mailing list you'll receive an email about the new AFCO heat exchanger tomorrow. If not you can find more info about this piece on our website or by giving us a call.

The best thing about the AFCO unit it that it's competitively priced at $669.95


When dealing with Roots or Twin Screw Superchargers there's always the issue of intake temps. When running the car hard and spinning the blower fast you create heat. Heat equals a loss in power as well as the possibility of damage to the engine. One way to help reduce these intake temps and the risk of damage is to add more fluid into the intercooler system which in turn helps lower intake temps by disiapating heat.

Whether it be on the street or at the track the warmer the car runs the more timing gets pulled. In addition to that an excessive amount of heat known as heat soak starts to take place. This keeps the car down on power and running less efficient. This again can be helped by adding more fluid into the cooling system. The temperature of the intercooler fluid will lower and cool down faster in between runs.

Here is a rundown of AFCO Pro-Series heat exchanger vs. Stock:

Core Size
AFCO core is 10" tall x 22.44" wide x 2" thick.
Stock is 6" tall x 23" wide x 1.25" thick.

Height:
Stock 6"
AFCO 10"

Width: Stock 23"
AFCO 22.5"

Thickness: Stock 1.25"
AFCO 2.0"

Front Face Area
Stock 138 sq. in.
AFCO 202 sq. in. (50% increase)

Overall Surface Area:
Stock 690 sq. in.
AFCO 1616 sq. in. (135% increase)

Fan Type:
Dual 10" Spal Fans

Here's some of the features of the AFCO Pro-Series Heat Exchanger for the Shelby GT500 and S197 Mustang GT:

* Fits 2007-2010 Shelby GT500 and 05-10 Mustang GT's
* High efficient double pass design vs. OEM single pass
* DUAL 10" Spal Fans
* Increased HP do to a dramatic intake temperature drop compared to stock
* Quicker cool down times in between runs at the track
* Helps prevent heat soak and detonation due to increased intake temps
* Simple do-it-yourself bolt on installation
* Furnace brazed core (no epoxies) with beautifully tig welded tank construction

This post has been edited by jared@lethal: 23 November 2009 - 02:53 PM

[Kostas]

I wonder if purchasing the fan set up only, would be available for those that already have the Afco H/E. Is this one the same size as the one without the fans??

[jared@lethal]

Kostas, on Nov 9 2009, 05:56 PM, said:

I wonder if purchasing the fan set up only, would be available for those that already have the Afco H/E. Is this one the same size as the one without the fans??

Unfortunately the fans will not fit on the original AFCO Pro-Series HE for the GT500 as they are larger and required the pump bracket to be relocated as well.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Jared

[03 DSG Snake]

Looks like a quality unit. Do the Fan wires need to be spliced?

[jared@lethal]

03 DSG Snake, on Nov 9 2009, 07:06 PM, said:

Looks like a quality unit. Do the Fan wires need to be spliced?

I still don't have a copy of the installation instructions so I can't say whether splicing is required or not. I do know that it's going to come with everything needed to bolt up and go. I'll post more info as I receive it.

Jared

[jared@lethal]

[mmm208]

Revan Racing is better

[sfadchi]

mmm208, on Nov 10 2009, 12:04 AM, said:

Revan Racing is better

Not sure how you can say that since this piece has not even came out yet. It looks like a nice product Jared, thanks for bringing us options!

[Lee N.]

"The best thing about the AFCO unit it that it's competitively priced at $669.95"

That says it all for me. I want its best feature to be its performance. Think I would rather pay another $80 and get the real deal. Granted I have not seen this one up close, but it does not appear to be the same quality as the Shelby/Revin exchanger. Who cares if its a little bigger if it does not cool as well. Where are the data specs?? What are the ACT drop numbers?

[HARLEYDEALER]

Don't really see the big deal! Radiators with fans have been out there a loooong time! I remember went I first went with Gords Ford heat exchanger with dual 6" fans in 07, most people and vendors could not see the advantage of fans, we had quite a discussion on them, mostly against, in this very forum. Now look were we are at, WHO"S FIRST! I don't think so! I did change this year and went with Revan's set up, great quality, install was #1 and easy, Van is a real stand up guy! But really have not seen a difference yet, but I am using different types of gauges with a different flow set-up. I'm just saying 9',10" or 6" its all better than no fan and certainly doesn't belong to any one person!

[Lee N.]

HARLEYDEALER, on Nov 10 2009, 07:03 AM, said:

Don't really see the big deal! Radiators with fans have been out there a loooong time! I remember went I first went with Gords Ford heat exchanger with dual 6" fans in 07, most people and vendors could not see the advantage of fans, we had quite a discussion on them, mostly against, in this very forum. Now look were we are at, WHO"S FIRST! I don't think so! I did change this year and went with Revan's set up, great quality, install was #1 and easy, Van is a real stand up guy! But really have not seen a difference yet, but I am using different types of gauges with a different flow set-up. I'm just saying 9',10" or 6" its all better than no fan and certainly doesn't belong to any one person!

I don't see much on this thread about "who was first". The question seems to be more about the performance. Which is better? Granted its early in this products release, but If you look at the literature on Shelby/Revin unit you see the tech specs everywhere. How the core was made, who made it, the ACT's ect, ect. All I read from the AFCO literature is "Its big and cheap". I like to read the performance data from a performance part. Thats the questions I have. It might be a great unit, but where is the data?

This post has been edited by Lee Novikoff: 10 November 2009 - 06:53 AM

[jared@lethal]

Lee Novikoff, on Nov 10 2009, 09:52 AM, said:

I don't see much on this thread about "who was first". The question seems to be more about the performance. Which is better? Granted its early in this products release, but If you look at the literature on Shelby/Revin unit you see the tech specs everywhere. How the core was made, who made it, the ACT's ect, ect. All I read from the AFCO literature is "Its big and cheap". I like to read the performance data from a performance part. Thats the questions I have. It might be a great unit, but where is the data?

Afco doesn't have to prove themselves. Just like if Van designed another new product he wouldn't have to prove himself as well. Both Van and AFCO have a track record for making high quality products.

Choose what you want and let it be.

Also, no one is against comparing the products. That won't happen though until the AFCO has been released. For now it's all speculation and opinion.

Jared

This post has been edited by jared@lethal: 10 November 2009 - 07:01 AM

[Lee N.]

jared@lethal, on Nov 10 2009, 07:59 AM, said:

Afco doesn't have to prove themselves. Just like if Van designed another new product he wouldn't have to prove himself as well. Both Van and AFCO have a track record for making high quality products.

Choose what you want and let it be.

Also, no one is against comparing the products. That won't happen though until the AFCO has been released. For now it's all speculation and opinion.

Jared

Never said "they" had to prove themselves but they should be asked to prove there product. Might be the greatest product on the market, but the post looked a little like a "sales smoke screen" to me.

I thought in this forum we suppose to ask for opinions and not just "choose what you want and let it be". What fun would that be? Wasn't the post meant to start a discussion?

[jared@lethal]

Lee Novikoff, on Nov 10 2009, 10:14 AM, said:

Never said "they" had to prove themselves but they should be asked to prove there product. Might be the greatest product on the market, but the post looked a little like a "sales smoke screen" to me.

I thought in this forum we suppose to ask for opinions and not just "choose what you want and let it be". What fun would that be? Wasn't the post meant to start a discussion?

Introducing a new product is far from a sales smoke screen. I introduce every other new product that we offer the same way. I believe my reputation here and in the GT500 community speaks for itself.

You are definitely welcome to post your opinion and we invite you to discuss.


Jared

This post has been edited by jared@lethal: 10 November 2009 - 07:25 AM

[HARLEYDEALER]

Lee Novikoff, on Nov 10 2009, 09:52 AM, said:

I don't see much on this thread about "who was first". The question seems to be more about the performance. Which is better? Granted its early in this products release, but If you look at the literature on Shelby/Revin unit you see the tech specs everywhere. How the core was made, who made it, the ACT's ect, ect. All I read from the AFCO literature is "Its big and cheap". I like to read the performance data from a performance part. Thats the questions I have. It might be a great unit, but where is the data?

Wrong thread, the other thread, I'm sure you read it also! My point still stands fans are good! Heck the Gords is also one great product and is installed more in the direct air, then others, not behind the bumper. Bill

[Lee N.]

jared@lethal, on Nov 10 2009, 08:23 AM, said:

Introducing a new product is far from a sales smoke screen. I introduce every other new product that we offer the same way. I believe my reputation here and in the GT500 community speaks for itself.

You are definitely welcome to post your opinion and we invite you to discuss.


Jared

Was never questioning your reputation Jared nor the reputation of AFCO. Not sure how you got that from my posts. Nor did I say introducing a new product was a smoke screen. Thats silly. The ONLY point I was trying to clear up is about the performance data. Does not seem like an unreasonable or insulting question to me. Any performance part you normally look to buy has data attched. Air cleaners, pulleys, blowers, programmers, ect. It just seemed odd to me that the introduction of this new part (whether it be from you or AFCO) did not have any of that. Most products listed on your site quote performance testing data.

A Dodge Challenger is bigger and cheaper than a GT500, but it does not mean its better.

Sorry if I insulted your reputation Jared. That was not my intent.

[freeze]

jared@lethal, on Nov 10 2009, 09:23 AM, said:

Introducing a new product is far from a sales smoke screen. I introduce every other new product that we offer the same way. I believe my reputation here and in the GT500 community speaks for itself.

You are definitely welcome to post your opinion and we invite you to discuss.


Jared

Revan Racing's HE has smoked ALL the competition, seems to me others are just jumping on the bandwagon now. Rarely do you get proven data from a performance part like Revans HE. I used the Shelby/Revan HE @ The Texas Mile, & the intercooler fluid never warmed up & the car did not pull timing. We will see if the data backs up the AFCO, personally I would pay the difference for the top notch service you get from Van, a truly rare thing in this industry!

[Grunnsetning]

Please keep in mind, Jared isn't saying Vans is junk or that nothing beats AFCO etc... He is simply offering another product for us to choose from.
It isn't his responsibility to test the all against each other. It is the manufacturers responsibility to prove there's is better than the competition like Van had previously done.
On the other hand until AFCO can prove there's is better than Vans I will stick with the one with the proven track record and proven customer service.
Seems people are mad at Jared for offering another option to us and I don't understand why.

[sfadchi]

Grunnsetning, on Nov 10 2009, 11:00 AM, said:

Please keep in mind, Jared isn't saying Vans is junk or that nothing beats AFCO etc... He is simply offering another product for us to choose from.
It isn't his responsibility to test the all against each other. It is the manufacturers responsibility to prove there's is better than the competition like Van had previously done.
On the other hand until AFCO can prove there's is better than Vans I will stick with the one with the proven track record and proven customer service.
Seems people are mad at Jared for offering another option to us and I don't understand why.

+1

Yeah Jared, can't you just offer one of each product, why do you have to give us so many options!

[gtcpa]

my gosh, can't someone introduce a new product on here without being jumped on ?

Like Harleydealer said above, fans are a good thing !

I have an existing AFCO now, was thinking of getting a fan unit, and it looks like there may be a couple of really good units to choose from, kind of like aftermarket superchargers. Isn't this good for our cars, to have options to choose which we think are the best for our situations.