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About 86glhs76

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  • Birthday 08/10/1970

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    Pacific Northwest
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    Range of Mopars including the Shelbys.
  1. Old post but I would add all the stock body kit back to it. The interior is in great shape, it probably was raced. And they remove the wheels and body kit and add the roll bar. Being VNT I would leave it stock and get a 3 bar computer from FWDperformace and a T2/T3 clutch. Then get PT lifters, head studs and MP head gasket from Turbosunleashed. A huge mod they didn't have was a posi, massive when autocrossing and helps with torque steer, Quaife sells a 555 posi for it still. Mine I wanted power so the VNT went away. Teamshelby has Shelby members that have numbers and history on the car. SDAC is a turbo mopar forum club and doesn't keep history on these cars. Todays SDAC basically started in the late 90s about 10 years later and is disconnected with their history when new.
  2. The 87 Shelby Chargers were 2011 units, the last 1000 of these went to Shelby for a GLHS conversion. They were a short carry over, the GLH was already gone in 87. So they pushed all of the cars through in one order. We have had 2 87s and 2 GLHSs. One thing to notice is the lack of a center console, the L body not to have them. I started racing them in the 80s, my first actually being the 87 SC. They were pushed out quickly and the line killed, they were built the same except color. They were having a hard time selling anything at that price without AC and other extras like sunroof. The early cars in 85 and 86 came without AC or sun roof. The early NA models like a DLJ came with radio delete The first were more race car than the later models, the Dodges were made to be more daily friendly. The original Dodge Shelbys were more race car and by 86 Shelby built his own versions. So the 83 Shelby Charger is radically different than the 83 Charger 2.2. By 87 much of the cars were the same and the numbered cars were the race cars. My brothers car was NA yet had a knock sensor from being high compression, the blocks were machined with flat top pistons for more compression. Then the timing gear was changed for the shorter block to keep cam timing. Exhaust, ball joints, brakes, struts, springs, swing arms and sway bars, body and interior were changed. Not much on a Shelby Charger in 83-84 was interchangeable. Then they came no AC, no sun roof and no radio as light as possible and ready to race from the dealer. You can't name a car built in the 80s that came that way, the 86 GLHS actually have a roll bar as an option on a new car...….. As the 86 flat scared the car media to death they said that even though it is an option any new buyer should consider it standard.
  3. The highest GLHS price tag at auction was 70K but it wasn't in the US but in the middle east years back. 40-60 sure would be great for the US though.
  4. http://www.gusjohnsonford.com/auto/used-2013-ford-focus-st-spokane_valley-99212-wa/3889784/ The local Ford dealer in Spokane has a Shelby Focus with 2000 miles on it.
  5. When Dodge made the SRT 4 Neon based car and Ford has made the ST they are bottom level cars for the companys. The GLHS did so well because it was the companys top level car like the STi is to Sube and the EVO is to Mitsu. In truth though there wasn't much on the road that out cornered the Shelby Dodges. I have my muscle cars still, they are lucky to end up in handling where the Shelbys start out. My 89 amazes kids driving modded STi's because of the handling and breaking. It does suck today though to autocross the CSX, it is in street prepared A class because of what it was new. I wonder how many Mustangs are in A class with it? Mustangs are in E, GLHS's are in D, the Cobra is in B class and the GT and the 89 CSX are in A. Guess it would have been nice to perform worse when new today lol. Today the apples to apples comparing between how the Dodges faired and the Fords with street cars isn't so hot for the Mustang. The at Willow the Shelby Dodges hung with the best in the world at the time like the Cobra did. Todays FWD are those manufactures "cheap" cars so you won't see them shock anyone today. I really like the ST myself, got a Shelby version FS a few clocks from me now at the Ford dealer in Spokane.
  6. I wouldn't cut the car or drill holes to get a gauge. You can buy a dual gage pod for the pillar then add the boost controller / wideband to it and the multi gauge for other stuff. If the car still runs the tiny VNT you need to leave it stock and get a 3 bar computer. If you raise the VS of the engine at all the flow change wipes out turbo control. So you'll want to decide leave it stock of change the turbo. I just got a SCG-1 and a multi gauge to make it easy. My 89 is a recaro car #187, great cars.
  7. Todays younger people that love compacts think a 4 door is a desirable race car......... Can't under stand why anyone would want my 86 more. I in fact had a 2 door and loved it when I bought my 86 and I got the 86 because I was raising 3 boys on my own and wanted them all to have their own doors lol. Other than my 89 CSX that I love the car to own is the 87 GLHS, can't see why they lack the love. Last nice one here in town the kid sold it because he wanted 4 doors lol, confused....
  8. Being a Muscle car guy first, owning a 65 Mustang as a first car, 72 340 Rally Challenger as a second and building and racing them years later I can tell you that except for the Cobras the early Mustangs sucked. The 65 GT 350 ran 15.7 and the GT500KR ran 14.85, both behind the GLHS's even at the drag strip. The 289 heads have TINY PORTS, unreal tiny. The 289 needed serious work to run, today you throw the stock heads in the trash and buy real ones. The KR was a heavy pig, Shelby liked building that the same as he liked building the Lancer, not at all. My 70 Challenger as a base model R/T came with a 335 HP 383, then a 375, 390 and 425 engines above that as an option. The KR had a 335 HP 428 lol. So from a Muscle car stand point they really were not impressive. The Cobras, great cars and fast. No question. New Mod shop cars, that are not actually a Shelby manufactured car like the GLHS or early KR. They are also really great cars. Shelby was great out side the US in road racing. In the US people drag raced and Nascar raced, which they had their rears handed to them by the Hemi's. So they really made a big impact really in Europe on road courses. On the street, people drag raced and the Mustangs are turds, I can't get them to drag my GLHS with an older Mustang Shelby.... So not a big impact here with the older cars. Cobra with its racing in Europe did great but who noticed road racing in the US in the 60s? Anyone? Then in the 80s people still wanted a v8. It wasn't till the mid to late 90s that compacts came into their own really as popular. Today most under 30 want a 4 banger, turbo and handling. The Shelby Dodges DESTROYED people at Willow in anything even remotely in their class. The 90s imports didn't have a chance either. It wasn't until the Evo and the STi came to the US that any compact could show them a race. To days youth that love compacts the Shelby Dodge is the muscle car of that generation which is very influential to Americans in the US. About the only people watching Lemans in the 60s drove a 35 second quarter mile MG.... The "idea" that the 65 GT 350 was fast because it could spin a rock hard 3" wide tread is also laughable and anyone that has ever run these cars knows better.... Even Shelby himself before death still loved to drive his personal GLHS that he took the decals off claiming his would stay with a Super Snake to 150 MPH. He was also a poor country boy that loved racing, not a rich guy poser with his big money Shelby show car today. Even to the end he loved the Shelby Dodge group for the cheap speed they have. My self I don't mind the Chevy and Ford Shelbys, the one that turns my stomach is the Toyota. But like Ford with the GT40, they were just a bunch of clowns that couldn't make the car work right so they had to pay Shelby to come deal with it. I suspect he did it as that car never came to the US...
  9. One of the big down sides to the 318 TBI has been the heads. They flow terrible and even worse they crack up and die. You end up with a dead hole. Then the intakes are a double runner POS that is very heavy. Though the runners look wide and like a 2 barrel they are only half as deep or less. The Magnum head flows better than the old 340 X head and has a tiny chambers. So what you need to know is. Magnum and LA Shelby Dakota lifters are the same lifters when you buy them today. New lifters have the oil holes most original TBI lifters don't. As they interchange with Magnums they all get the holes when you buy new lifters. Magnum and LA blocks are basically the same with little difference. So the lifters, rockers, push rods for the Magnum are usable with magnum head on the Shelby Dakota LA block, Delta makes a .450" lift cam for the LA engine and Lunati makes a higher lift cam the 20200714 that works as well. TBI, 318 or 360 use the same injector, the 318 got a 450 CFM TBI and the 360 got the 670 CFM. The Edelbrock Performer is a bolt on to a Shelby Dakota shock, weight loss and big flow change. You just need to drill a 1/4" piece of plate for the intake and the TBI and bolt it on. People make and sell these but too expensive. Use nylon lock nuts with the TBI bolts. It is also a good idea to just use the 360 TBI at this time. If you want EGR to work by that manifold and the mid 70s-80s EGR valve with the EGR Performer. Enginequest and Indy heads both make the "retro fit" Magnum heads with "LA" bolt setups. This allows you to add a new head that flows a lot better to the Shelby Dakota. The stock exhaust manifolds work as well, even the valve covers bolt on though don't use every bolt hole. The exhaust bolts up though I would get 92-93 manifolds. Cheap magnum Dakota heads fit at this point too. Getting a custom computer like a boostbutton or something to mod the stock computer is a good idea. But if you are just looking to replace the heads and aren't looking for high RPM. Then get a scanner and a adjustable fuel pressure regulator. The scanner shows the computer adding or pulling fuel up to 25% on the scanner. You simply raise or lower the fuel pressure till the scanner shows 0 or centered. Except for the torque 2 intake no other LA intakes have the off set water neck and the bolt hole for the AC pump and the extra sensor holes needed for the TBI. So you are down to 2 choices really. RPM intakes and such will require losing the front AC setup. Painted black 99% can't tell this setup isn't stock. Use the 360 TBI intake and it is 100% invisible.
  10. I like the car, really like the ST too, may get one lol. But even though yes a FWD hatch like the GLHS. BUT the 86 GLHS ran the 1/4 where the 4 bangers of the time just about ran the 0-60. It also beat big money "super cars" of the time. 14.7 quarter mile for the 86 GLHS and the GTi ran 0-60 at 14.1 seconds and the CRX Si ran 13.8....... So the GLHS was the Super Snake,,, of the time. The Focus is just something they are playing around with at the moment. Turn it up to 450 HP rated and the car will sell.
  11. I own the 86 GLHS and the 89 CSX, the CSX in 89 is easily the top car. The issue with all Shelbys is that the more "caveman" they are the more people love them. I love my 86 but it defines crude. The 89 CSX is still today the F40 of all FWD cars ever made, there just hasn't been a nicer more balanced FWD ever. Adding the interior, body kit and the suspension on the car and it is incredible from all angles. But, roll down the window and listen to the side exhaust 3" exhaust on the 86 and go terrorize. Mine used to run high 12s at 110 on the daily radials, even today it is very rare to find something faster around here. The 89 also is soo much that you get a lot of ricer comments lol. My workers like the STi's, we had a driving day a couple years ago. Let them drive both cars, about 10 young people below 25. More than half liked the CSX, and mine isn't modded. The sleeper image that I bought my 86 for is ruined too, everyone thinks a 4 door is a race car somehow today.... The 87 is gorgeous and todays youth thinks the 86 is better looking LMAO.
  12. ah the bent parts on the end go towards the hood, not the engine. Really can't go on more than 2 ways though.... Should be obvious that the flange's go up. I think the thing hits the intake too BTW up side down. I leave mine off anyway, bleeds heat and air out of the engine compartment.
  13. I have this mag, good artical. On other forums it has been discussed many times. One of those discussions says the car had some ported racing head on it and other work for flow. Flat out lie. The reason has to do with the turbo. It is long known that racing exhaust or porting or even a 2.5 short block nets you no turbo control and the little VNT boost creeps. So the only real thing that could have been done is a 3 bar map computer with bigger injectors, leaving it stock otherwise. But they talk about the boost level in the article so that tosses that idea too. Living in the northwest and next to "safe and prudent" Montana I can tell you 148 is not that tough with enough room. What's tough is the short wheel base and 14:1 steering lol, don't jerk the wheel! The body doesn't produce down force, just fights lift from removing more under car wind pressure. So they go that fast and faster but really don't like it. Going to add some venting and so on with mine, hoping for the 1 mile drag racing next year with it in Nevada and the 135 Grand Touring class. better wind routing under the car and to the intercooler should help it out enough.
  14. Like driving a big wheels toy with plastic tires lol, lots of slide and no body roll lol. Nice aarticle few little things though that were off though but not much. Like a CSX T with 146 hp, had a bit more. Surprised the car in the Museum doesn't have the Recaro option? Have to say now that I am older and many years construction behind me the standard seats would be nicer lol. At 5'-8" and 185 lbs I am really too fat to sit in #187 lol.
  15. Great Shelby mag but I have one complaint, always the same storys rehashed over and over. How many different ways can you read about Le Man's? Each mag has the same race history, nothing new. Though the focus is Ford the mag has the other groups in there Too. I am a Dodge Shelby fan clearly. But the problem with Dodge Shelby is that ALL of the racing history is gone. Scott Harvey made big land speed records at El Mirage, AMAZING speed levels past 200, in the 80's with a 4 banger. But other than a book written by a family member nothing. The there is pikes peak, how many years did a Dodge Shelby win the production class in a row? 6 I've read with John Crawford driving. It is nice to see the Shelby history, but the same history over and over. How about some history that no body remembers? Scott Harveys timing runs at El Mirage with S.C.T.A. would be great. One day out with a Shelby Charger with Steve Hope driving. With 3 different engines, a NA 2.2 8v, a NA 16v 2.2 and a 8v turbo 2.2 the blue NA Shelby Charger made 5 land speed records ranging from 180 MPH to 228 MPH! Just that alone would be a great story or one of Shelby's engineers. Yes it was impressive when Shelby's Daytona made a 200 MPH record on the salt with a big V8, but coming back and doing past 200 MPH with a ancient 4 banger is a lot more impressive I think. Keep in mind Scott's salt record stood 16 YEARS before a Honda came around to beat it! Also amusing is that his one way was as fast as Honda's 2 way. If not for being 1990 and not having the clutch tech we have today he wouldn't have melted his clutch and ran a 207 MPH two way average in a maroon Shelby charger. Yes he went past 200 MPH on salt too. An old Mopar mag from 1990 long lost had his salt record and then just a few years ago it was brought up by road and track when the Honda beat the salt record. Then FAST DAYS on pg 97 talks of the El Mirage runs. Yes today they are going that fast with the SRT 4, with wind tunnel testing etc, not to mention todays 16v setups, better turbos and intercoolers and computer systems. Shelby's people did it over 20 years ago with caveman computers and ancient 4 bangers... Shows really impressive ability's for any car builder...
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