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MRGEORGE

Shelby Autos sued for breach of contact

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Editor's Note:

The original topic from 28 Sept. was moved into a non-readable section, which is not an action that Shelby American approved. Another topic appeared, which we then merged with the original topic. Thus, this post contains two merged topics.

 

We apologize that the topic was hidden from public view. As soon this was discovered, it was restored.

 

Nothing from the below press release has been altered. Shelby's response to this can be found on post #15.

 

Robert Lane

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PRESS RELEASE

 

SHELBY AUTOMOBILES SUED FOR BREACH OF CONTRACT, BAD FAITH,

FRAUD, NEGLIGENCE, AND CONVERSION

 

Los Angeles, California (September 19, 2012)- Stephen Becker Automotive Group, Inc. has filed

suit in Los Angeles Superior Court against Shelby Automobiles, Inc., a subsidiary of Carroll

Shelby International, Inc. Stephen Becker Automotive Group alleges in its complaint that

Shelby Automobiles defrauded it by inducing it to enter into a Cobra dealership agreement and

then, when the dealership invested its capital and ordered several Cobras, pocketing the

dealership’s money. Stephen Becker Automotive company spent hundreds of thousands of

dollars for high-ticket Cobra vehicles, but Shelby Automobiles shelved the orders and did not

produce the ordered vehicles for years, and in some cases not at all. Stephen Becker Automotive

also alleges that Shelby Automobiles then tried to force it out of business so that Shelby

Automotive could sell the ordered vehicles to other parties for even more money.

 

The Law Offices of Michael A. Brewer filed the lawsuit on behalf of Stephen Becker

Automotive. They can be reached at 2020 Main Street, Suite 900, Irvine, CA 92614, or at (949)

679-6060

Edited by robertlane
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Becker is the Planet Cobra guy, right? Didn't he and Shelby sign a 5 year deal mid year 2011? It would be interesting to see a copy of the Complaint that was filed to see what the specific allegations are. Anyone have a copy?

 

Jim

 

Edit: Poor sentence structure.

Edited by clark17357

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Since you've posted this on multiple forums, and in at least case as your first post to that forum, I have to assume you have a personal vendatta against either SAI or Stephen Becker, or maybe both. Is Becker by chance the dealer you've been complaining about on Club Cobra? If this is personal why don't you take it somewhere else.

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Nothing personal A/G, just reporting the news, don't shoot the messenger. Best regards George

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Yep......just someone looking to stir up conflick and get His 10 Minutes of Limelight.....................................

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Didn't he and Shelby sign a 5 year deal mid year 2011?

 

 

yep, planet cobra's website says March 2011

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Just saw this on "Club Cobra" Roger, can you check with Mr. Becker to varify and possibly remove or Lock this thread as being someone just trying to stir something up?

 

 

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MRMUSTANG is incorrect in his supposed statement of fact - I have never sued SAI nor have they ever sued me

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SHELBY AUTOMOBILES SUED FOR BREACH OF CONTRACT, BAD FAITH,

FRAUD, NEGLIGENCE, AND CONVERSION

 

Los Angeles, California (September 19, 2012)- Stephen Becker Automotive Group, Inc. has filed

suit in Los Angeles Superior Court against Shelby Automobiles, Inc., a subsidiary of Carroll

Shelby International, Inc. Stephen Becker Automotive Group alleges in its complaint that

Shelby Automobiles defrauded it by inducing it to enter into a Cobra dealership agreement and

then, when the dealership invested its capital and ordered several Cobras, pocketing the

dealership’s money. Stephen Becker Automotive company spent hundreds of thousands of

dollars for high-ticket Cobra vehicles, but Shelby Automobiles shelved the orders and did not

produce the ordered vehicles for years, and in some cases not at all. Stephen Becker Automotive

also alleges that Shelby Automobiles then tried to force it out of business so that Shelby

Automotive could sell the ordered vehicles to other parties for even more money.

 

The Law Offices of Michael A. Brewer filed the lawsuit on behalf of Stephen Becker

Automotive. They can be reached at 2020 Main Street, Suite 900, Irvine, CA 92614, or at (949)

679-6060.

 

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Since your other post disappeared, and you've only posted on this forum 5 times, perhaps you're part of the lawsuit? Maybe one of the Brewer lawyers? Trolling?

 

Sam

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Since your other post disappeared, and you've only posted on this forum 5 times, perhaps you're part of the lawsuit? Maybe one of the Brewer lawyers? Trolling?

 

Sam

 

 

This DipWad has been all over the Net spreading this crap and, over on the Cobra Forums Stephen Becker has already posted that He has NEVER Sued SA and SA has Never Sued Him. I say Ban this Giy.

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Official Shelby Response

 

"The press release issued by Planet Cobra is a libelous document issued by a dealer who entered into a dealer agreement with Shelby American over four years ago and made substantial profits on orders for Cobra vehicles. Now unfortunately he finds it necessary to sue after Shelby demanded payment on past due invoices.

 

In 2010, Carroll Shelby personally made a substantial personal loan to Mr. Steven Becker, the owner of Planet Cobra, to help him meet his financial obligations. If Mr. Shelby were alive today, he would be terribly disappointed with Mr. Becker.

 

Shelby American will vigorously defend the fictitious claims set forth in Planet Cobra's press release and lawsuit, which reads like it came from a different planet."

 

Joe Conway

President

Carroll Shelby International

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Just saw this on "Club Cobra" Roger, can you check with Mr. Becker to varify and possibly remove or Lock this thread as being someone just trying to stir something up?

 

 

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MRMUSTANG is incorrect in his supposed statement of fact - I have never sued SAI nor have they ever sued me

 

We're not going to close down discussion. Please see posts #1 and #15.

 

CSI will provided responses as necessary.

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Cheers to Shelby American for issuing a public response. Lots of companies would have remained silent and let the rumors fly.

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We're not going to close down discussion.

 

 

 

Nor do I think you should shut it down. Kudos to you, Robert.

 

Like someone else said, most companies would just remain silent and let the rumors fly. Personally I wouldn't have a problem with you guys (Shelby American) remaining silent because I know from experience, "Anything you say WILL be used against you in a Court of law"...Which is exactly why many/most don't comment on pending litigation.

 

And IMO, just because a thread/comment isn't complimentary/flattering towards Carroll Shelby and/or Shelby American (or any employee thereof), it should not be shut down. That will only get you roasted and toasted for being a overly 'censored' site and give the 'air of appearance' of guilt.

 

Frankly, a couple of the posts in this thread remind me of the story where the little kid points out that the King is naked..."HOW DARE YOU SAY SOMETHING BAD ABOUT SHELBY!" (i.e. say, "The King Is Naked" out loud). Most call those kind of people "Fanboys", and that's not typically looked at as flattering or as a term of endearment.

 

 

Just My Humble/Honest Opinion (JMHO),

 

Phill Pollard

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We're not going to close down discussion. Please see posts #1 and #15.

 

CSI will provided responses as necessary.

 

 

Thats cool....................I just put this in the same pile as "Political Mud Slinging", where one politition claims the other said something when in fact, the Polititon took it out of context.

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Guess the response from SAI says it all.

 

 

Guess the justice system will decide who is at fault. Hurry up and order those 2013 SS for $30K, lawyer's cost a lot.

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Since you've posted this on multiple forums, and in at least case as your first post to that forum, I have to assume you have a personal vendatta against either SAI or Stephen Becker, or maybe both. Is Becker by chance the dealer you've been complaining about on Club Cobra? If this is personal why don't you take it somewhere else.

 

 

 

I bought a car CSX 8050 from Becker and dealt with both him and Shelby American, I am not taking sides here, I have my car, as it may be, but for someone that is considering making a buy of 100,000 plus may have an interest in current events, ask some of the folks that ordered a 50th Anniversary car in Jan of what? 2011. There is nothing wrong with being informed and then making your own decision, I hope you would agree. Best, George

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Official Shelby Response

 

"The press release issued by Planet Cobra is a libelous document issued by a dealer who entered into a dealer agreement with Shelby American over four years ago and made substantial profits on orders for Cobra vehicles. Now unfortunately he finds it necessary to sue after Shelby demanded payment on past due invoices.

 

In 2010, Carroll Shelby personally made a substantial personal loan to Mr. Steven Becker, the owner of Planet Cobra, to help him meet his financial obligations. If Mr. Shelby were alive today, he would be terribly disappointed with Mr. Becker.

 

Shelby American will vigorously defend the fictitious claims set forth in Planet Cobra's press release and lawsuit, which reads like it came from a different planet."

 

Joe Conway

President

Carroll Shelby International

 

 

I bought a car CSX 8050 from Becker and dealt with both him and Shelby American, I am not taking sides here, I have my car, as it may be, but for someone that is considering making a buy of 100,000 plus may have an interest in current events, ask some of the folks that ordered a 50th Anniversary car in Jan of what? 2011. There is nothing wrong with being informed and then making your own decision, I hope you would agree. Best, George

 

 

 

George, you said that "There is nothing wrong with being informed" but you only gave 1 piece of a side of the information.

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Official Shelby Response

 

"The press release issued by Planet Cobra is a libelous document issued by a dealer who entered into a dealer agreement with Shelby American over four years ago and made substantial profits on orders for Cobra vehicles. Now unfortunately he finds it necessary to sue after Shelby demanded payment on past due invoices.

 

In 2010, Carroll Shelby personally made a substantial personal loan to Mr. Steven Becker, the owner of Planet Cobra, to help him meet his financial obligations. If Mr. Shelby were alive today, he would be terribly disappointed with Mr. Becker.

 

Shelby American will vigorously defend the fictitious claims set forth in Planet Cobra's press release and lawsuit, which reads like it came from a different planet."

 

Joe Conway

President

Carroll Shelby International

 

 

I bought a car CSX 8050 from Becker and dealt with both him and Shelby American, I am not taking sides here, I have my car, as it may be, but for someone that is considering making a buy of 100,000 plus may have an interest in current events, ask some of the folks that ordered a 50th Anniversary car in Jan of what? 2011. There is nothing wrong with being informed and then making your own decision, I hope you would agree. Best, George

 

 

 

George, you said that "There is nothing wrong with being informed" but you only gave 1 piece of a side of the information.

 

 

At the time of my original post, the only information available was a public press release put out by Becker. Subsequently, Shelby American has posted their position not only on this site but in other public forums, which was the proper and correct thing for them to do .I also believe they presented their position very well. Since that time there has been additional information provided the public which is as follows:

 

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120928/RETAIL07/120929859/dealer-sues-shelby-alleges-pocketed-payments-for-unbuilt-cars

 

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20120928/CARNEWS/120929798

 

http://www.nationalspeedsportnews.com/more/becker-automotive-sues-shelby-automobiles/

 

And for the lawyers out there:

 

http://www.autonews.com/assets/PDF/CA83053928.PDF

 

You are correct that before an informed decision can be made not only do you have to have all of the facts and all the pertinent information but in this case we will all have to wait for the ultimate decision of the courts.

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Nor do I think you should shut it down. Kudos to you, Robert.

 

Like someone else said, most companies would just remain silent and let the rumors fly. Personally I wouldn't have a problem with you guys (Shelby American) remaining silent because I know from experience, "Anything you say WILL be used against you in a Court of law"...Which is exactly why many/most don't comment on pending litigation.

 

And IMO, just because a thread/comment isn't complimentary/flattering towards Carroll Shelby and/or Shelby American (or any employee thereof), it should not be shut down. That will only get you roasted and toasted for being a overly 'censored' site and give the 'air of appearance' of guilt.

 

Frankly, a couple of the posts in this thread remind me of the story where the little kid points out that the King is naked..."HOW DARE YOU SAY SOMETHING BAD ABOUT SHELBY!" (i.e. say, "The King Is Naked" out loud). Most call those kind of people "Fanboys", and that's not typically looked at as flattering or as a term of endearment.

 

 

Just My Humble/Honest Opinion (JMHO),

 

Phill Pollard

 

 

Isn't that the Emperor that has no clothes? ;)

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At the time of my original post, the only information available was a public press release put out by Becker. Subsequently, Shelby American has posted their position not only on this site but in other public forums, which was the proper and correct thing for them to do .I also believe they presented their position very well. Since that time there has been additional information provided the public which is as follows:

 

http://www.autonews....or-unbuilt-cars

 

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20120928/CARNEWS/120929798

 

http://www.nationalspeedsportnews.com/more/becker-automotive-sues-shelby-automobiles/

 

 

And for the lawyers out there:

 

http://www.autonews.com/assets/PDF/CA83053928.PDF

 

 

You are correct that before an informed decision can be made not only do you have to have all of the facts and all the pertinent information but in this case we will all have to wait for the ultimate decision of the courts.

 

 

Yeah, we've noticed. You're blasting this spam everywhere. So far you've missed two of the 10 or so car forums I frequent. Gotta dig deeper to make sure you hit all of them.

 

So precisely what horse do you have in this race?

 

I bought and sold a Shelby CSX. I bought it because I loved it and sold it because my wife hated it.

 

But you seem to have a burr under your saddle. Come clean.

 

Right now you're heading to the top of people I truly hope I never meet. Don't worry, we'll never be friends.

Edited by twobjshelbys

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As an SAI customer who has bought, paid for, and have had my car delivered to me, what exactly am I supposed to be concerned with here.

 

It won't make me hate SAI, it won't make me not buy another one and it won't make me not recommend them.

 

OK, I'm moving along, nothing to see here.

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I had a PM exchange with the author on another forum. I think we could probably now share a beer. :)

 

He has some issues that I will share with Steve offline...

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Just to let everyone know that I really appreciate the many, many phone calls and e-mails showing overwhelming support for myself and my dealership in reference to this on-going litigation with Shelby American Inc – Thank you!

I also want to make it very clear that my PR team will very soon be putting together a website that can be accessed by all interested in this litigation to not only have access to read the original complaint but to also read SAI's rebuttal, review any and all filings (from both sides) with the court and to review the videos and written transcripts of the depositions that will take place as this case progresses - I am 100% transparent in both my personal and professional life so as to not skew anyone by not showing everything that is happening with both the plaintiff & the defendant.

 

SGB

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