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20 minutes ago, Mongoose said:

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Hey Keefer, now that’s funny, but my wife agrees with her!!!      :shrug:    :hysterical2:

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1 minute ago, svtkeith said:

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4 minutes ago, Mongoose said:

Hey mach 1, Slo Lane , or Mr, Lucky, this is for you!   It was found on “Barn Finds” and it’s now on ebay and I know you love the 70 Mach 1 and especially rare ones so here ya go bud!   :lol:    Enjoy the pics!       Later Mr. Lucky!    :peelout:

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Cool info Goose!!….never did hear of the T5 before...….:thumbsup:

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1 minute ago, svtkeith said:

 

Cool info Goose!!….never did hear of the T5 before...….:thumbsup:

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1 hour ago, svtkeith said:

 

Sounds to me you've been asleep a long time.....:talkhand:

Yep: All the C8 hype propaganda got me lots of sleep!! :boring:

 

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1 hour ago, svtkeith said:

 

Cool info Goose!!….never did hear of the T5 before...….:thumbsup:

I used to own a 1967 T-5 Fastback.

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27 minutes ago, svtkeith said:

:talkhand::boring:

Looks like the C8 hype train is getting to you, too! :hysterical2:

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2 hours ago, tesgt350 said:

I used to own a 1967 T-5 Fastback.

 

2 hours ago, tesgt350 said:

I used to own a 1967 T-5 Fastback.

Hey tes,  that’s pretty neat!     :peelout:

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8 hours ago, Secondo said:

Looks like the C8 hype train is getting to you, too! :hysterical2:

No you're getting to me dude!!….the C8 is fine and the testing Randy did is fine you're just a childish hater with a calculator that

apparently is a crystal ball for you...you're a joke pal.

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9 hours ago, tesgt350 said:

I used to own a 1967 T-5 Fastback.

 

Cool...do you have pics?....were they sold in N America?...thought they were only sold in Germany.

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8 minutes ago, svtkeith said:

 

Cool...do you have pics?....were they sold in N America?...thought they were only sold in Germany.

Not really sold in USA.  This one was brought back to the States by someone in the Army.

Our 67 T5 Mustang10.jpg

Our 67 T5 Mustang9.jpg

Our 67 T5 Mustang1.jpg

Our 67 T5 Mustang2.jpg

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44 minutes ago, svtkeith said:

No you're getting to me dude!!….the C8 is fine and the testing Randy did is fine you're just a childish hater with a calculator that

apparently is a crystal ball for you...you're a joke pal.

Keith, Not to defend childish comments but since coming back I notice, any comment about the C8 the collective group here deems as negative Is quickly either ignored, dismissed or attacked as idiotic. Posts meant to be interactive are quickly attacked and conversation shut down by making the person not want to come back here. Nowhere has anyone said the C8 is not a great vehicle. But you wouldn't think so from some of the responses

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Thanks Mongoose. Love those mach’s  That looks like a Windsor 2bbl. Talk about patina ...:thumbsup:I had a yellow 2bbl one right out of college and my first job . Living at home and paid it off right away. One year old and paid $2100 for her. That thing was terrible in the snow .So moved on down to south Fl. Michigan weather was just too much and the girls in Detroit were so cold ...kind of like the weather . Well the south fla girls were from all over the country and friendly. That’s where I met Bonnie and 46 years later still a catch. She was from up state NY. 

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58 minutes ago, tesgt350 said:

Not really sold in USA.  This one was brought back to the States by someone in the Army.

Our 67 T5 Mustang10.jpg

Our 67 T5 Mustang9.jpg

Our 67 T5 Mustang1.jpg

Our 67 T5 Mustang2.jpg

Cool ass car for sure. I only thought the T 5 was made in 1966. Heck you learn something every day on here. Thanks 

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Most people on here feel the 2020 GT500 and the C8 are two great cars to hit the market. Since I can’t afford both I have to pick one. But $73K for both is affordable if both cars are sold at msrp of less. The C8 I ordered is with the Z51 , black trim , wheels and 2LT options . So for $73K it’s not the base. Lots of extra stuff and advanced gear. On the other hand at $73K the Shelby is the base model not Sure if it has the equipment  listed below . The list below is equipment over and above the base C8:

1 data recorder

2 Bose 14 speaker system

3 blind spot mirrors 

4 180 camera in the rear view mirror ...plus back up camera required by law 

5 electronic diff

6 targa top carbon fiber 

7 front and rear aero 

8 performance gearing 

9 performance adjustable exhaust + 5 extra hp and torque 

10 adjustable side bolsters and lumbar . Power 10 way adjustable. 

11 heavy duty cooling ,engine ,trans and rear end 

12 Nav and auto play  

13  memory seats and mirrors . 

14 upgraded interior trim with full leather 

This is just some of the equipment over and above the base model. All for $73K and no ADMS. Plus I can buy for under msrp using my GM card. $71,750. 

So combine this with the performance numbers listed on this tread compared to the base GT500 and it’s a no brained at least for me. Not one dealer in my area will sell a GT 500 for sticker either. Not one in a 200 miles radius. So it’s $71,750 vs $88,000. 

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1 hour ago, svttim said:

Keith, Not to defend childish comments but since coming back I notice, any comment about the C8 the collective group here deems as negative Is quickly either ignored, dismissed or attacked as idiotic. Posts meant to be interactive are quickly attacked and conversation shut down by making the person not want to come back here. Nowhere has anyone said the C8 is not a great vehicle. But you wouldn't think so from some of the responses

+1 Tim :thumbsup:, Keith and the Goose get upset rather easily. 

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1 hour ago, mach 1 1970 said:

Cool ass car for sure. I only thought the T 5 was made in 1966. Heck you learn something every day on here. Thanks 

Nope up to 1978.  I saw a Blue 71-73 T-5 at the 50th Anniversary in Charlotte, NC.  Some where I have a Photo of it.

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7 minutes ago, Secondo said:

+1 Tim :thumbsup:, Keith and the Goose get upset rather easily. 

Then stop  pouring gas on the fire if you know this for a fact . It takes two to tango. Hang out on the lobby. Don’t get this locked 🔒 us guys love Shelby’s and other makes.  After all this is what this this site is about. Last word on this subject.

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50 minutes ago, mach 1 1970 said:

Most people on here feel the 2020 GT500 and the C8 are two great cars to hit the market. Since I can’t afford both I have to pick one. But $73K for both is affordable if both cars are sold at msrp of less. The C8 I ordered is with the Z51 , black trim , wheels and 2LT options . So for $73K it’s not the base. Lots of extra stuff and advanced gear. On the other hand at $73K the Shelby is the base model not Sure if it has the equipment  listed below . The list below is equipment over and above the base C8:

1 data recorder

2 Bose 14 speaker system

3 blind spot mirrors 

4 180 camera in the rear view mirror ...plus back up camera required by law 

5 electronic diff

6 targa top carbon fiber 

7 front and rear aero 

8 performance gearing 

9 performance adjustable exhaust + 5 extra hp and torque 

10 adjustable side bolsters and lumbar . 

11 heavy duty cooling ,engine ,trans and rear end 

12 Nav and auto play  

This is just some of the equipment over and above the base model. All for $73K and no ADMS. Plus I can buy for under msrp using my GM card. $71,750. 

So combine this with the performance numbers listed on this tread compared to the base GT500 and it’s a no brained at least for me. Not one dealer in my area will sell a GT 500 for sticker either. Not one in a 200 miles radius. So it’s $71,750 vs $88,000. 

I like the idea of having Adjustable  Side Bolsters.  At a Mustang Show in Pensacola, Ford Racing had a 2012 BOSS 302 with the factory RACARO's and a guy a little bigger than me tried to sit in it and he couldn't, he even moved the Seat back all the way to give him more room and still couldn't sit in the Seat, the Bolsters were to tight.

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14 minutes ago, tesgt350 said:

I like the idea of having Adjustable  Side Bolsters.  At a Mustang Show in Pensacola, Ford Racing had a 2012 BOSS 302 with the factory RACARO's and a guy a little bigger than me tried to sit in it and he couldn't, he even moved the Seat back all the way to give him more room and still couldn't sit in the Seat, the Bolsters were to tight.

My side bolsters in the 18 gt350 are very tight. If I were overweight there would be no way to comfortably sit in them. Much tighter then the 13 Boss I had. I’m 6’5” and 190 lbs. Having adjustable wings or bolsters is great. On a long drive just adjust them . On the twisty back road just tighten them nice and snug. 

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50 minutes ago, mach 1 1970 said:

Then stop  pouring gas on the fire if you know this for a fact . It takes two to tango. Hang out on the lobby. Don’t get this locked 🔒 us guys love Shelby’s and other makes.  After all this is what this this site is about. Last word on this subject.

I think you guys have reading impediments. Tim called out Keith, not me. Talk to your pals since they can't handle plain talk and speculation about a car not released to the public yet. I look forward to the final tests by the public and happy for you guys if you want to buy one. 

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I didn't call anyone out. It was a general comment to the group. I felt comfortable coming in here before. Something has changed and I would like some to reflect on that

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23 hours ago, mach 1 1970 said:

Here are the actual numbers comparing the C8 to the 2020 Shelby GT500 and the Shelby GT 500 with the $18K track pack. 

You  put cup 2 tires on the C8 I’m sure the comparison would be another 4 seconds off for the C8.lap times . Both cars are pretty amazing. However the Shelby in a race would pit for gas every 25 laps compared to 35 laps for the C8  that’s how much more gas a  776 hp needs to push around a 4200 lb car VS 3500 lb car with 495 hp  

Look at all the acceleration times. The C8 would beat even the track pack Shelby on the street where most people do their driving. $95K vs $65K  that’s with no ADMs  fellas  

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You missed some important parts of that data.  Like it wasn't a base C8 and the cost.

TEST DATA

ACCELERATION TO MPH
0-30 1.0 sec 1.6 sec 1.8 sec
0-40 1.5 2.4 2.4
0-50 2.1 3.0 3.0
0-60 2.8 3.7 3.6
0-70 3.7 4.4 4.3
0-80 4.6 5.2 5.1
0-90 5.8 6.2 6.0
0-100 7.1 7.3 7.0
0-100-0 10.8 11.1 10.7
PASSING, 45-65 MPH 1.4 1.3 1.3
QUARTER MILE 11.1 sec @ 123.2 mph 11.5 sec @ 129.6 mph 11.3 sec @ 131.6 mph
BRAKING, 60-0 MPH 97 ft 100 ft 94 ft
LATERAL ACCELERATION 1.04 g (avg) 1.01 g (avg) 1.05 g (avg)
MT FIGURE EIGHT 23.3 sec @ 0.90 g (avg) 24.1 sec @ 0.85 g (avg) 23.5 sec @ 0.89 g (avg)
3.3-MI ROAD COURSE LAP 2:00.96 sec (track setup) 1:59.68 sec 1:56.30 sec
TOP-GEAR REVS @ 60 MPH 1,300 rpm 1,550 rpm 1,550 rpm
CONSUMER INFO
BASE PRICE $76,945 $73,995 $92,495
PRICE AS TESTED $88,305 $80,785 $94,365

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1 hour ago, mach 1 1970 said:

My side bolsters in the 18 gt350 are very tight. If I were overweight there would be no way to comfortably sit in them. Much tighter then the 13 Boss I had. I’m 6’5” and 190 lbs. Having adjustable wings or bolsters is great. On a long drive just adjust them . On the twisty back road just tighten them nice and snug. 

A friend in the club who got a GT350 ('16 I think) had the Recaros taken out.  He called the price to exchange the seats Ford's Fat Tax.

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6 minutes ago, DrHawkeye said:

You missed some important parts of that data.  Like it wasn't a base C8 and the cost.

TEST DATA

ACCELERATION TO MPH
0-30 1.0 sec 1.6 sec 1.8 sec
0-40 1.5 2.4 2.4
0-50 2.1 3.0 3.0
0-60 2.8 3.7 3.6
0-70 3.7 4.4 4.3
0-80 4.6 5.2 5.1
0-90 5.8 6.2 6.0
0-100 7.1 7.3 7.0
0-100-0 10.8 11.1 10.7
PASSING, 45-65 MPH 1.4 1.3 1.3
QUARTER MILE 11.1 sec @ 123.2 mph 11.5 sec @ 129.6 mph 11.3 sec @ 131.6 mph
BRAKING, 60-0 MPH 97 ft 100 ft 94 ft
LATERAL ACCELERATION 1.04 g (avg) 1.01 g (avg) 1.05 g (avg)
MT FIGURE EIGHT 23.3 sec @ 0.90 g (avg) 24.1 sec @ 0.85 g (avg) 23.5 sec @ 0.89 g (avg)
3.3-MI ROAD COURSE LAP 2:00.96 sec (track setup) 1:59.68 sec 1:56.30 sec
TOP-GEAR REVS @ 60 MPH 1,300 rpm 1,550 rpm 1,550 rpm
CONSUMER INFO
BASE PRICE $76,945 $73,995 $92,495
PRICE AS TESTED $88,305 $80,785 $94,365

Sorry the base price on a C8 Is $60K . My loaded Z51 2LT is $73K. $88K would be like front end lift 3LT trim which is softer leather and a waste of money. completion seats that I don’t like for everyday driving. Plus other do dad’s that are like carbon trim in the engine compartment for looks only. Wheels with polished trim. Mostly cosmetic things. In other words $88K for the cars and coffee type guy. Show and tell guy that’s doesn’t really drive his car hard.

 

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4 minutes ago, mach 1 1970 said:

Sorry the base price on a C8 Is $60K . My loaded Z51 2LT is $73K. $88K would be like front end lift 3LT trim which is softer leather and a waste of money. completion seats that I don’t like for everyday driving. Plus other do dad’s that are like carbon trim in the engine compartment for looks only. Wheels with polished trim. Mostly cosmetic things. In other words $88K for the cars and coffee type guy. Show and tell guy that’s doesn’t really drive his car hard.

 

Well, they tested the fully loaded version, not the base version.  That's important to know.  The base C8 probably won't put out those numbers.

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1 minute ago, DrHawkeye said:

Well, they tested the fully loaded version, not the base version.  That's important to know.  The base C8 probably won't put out those numbers.

$5000 cost for the Z51 trim Package to get those numbers.. Read my old post why you should get that trim Package. 

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2020 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray (3LT Z51) 2020 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 2020 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 CFTP
DRIVETRAIN LAYOUT Mid-engine, RWD Front-engine, RWD Front-engine, RWD
ENGINE TYPE 90-deg V-8, alum block/heads Supercharged 90-deg V-8, alum block/heads Supercharged 90-deg V-8, alum block/heads
VALVETRAIN OHV, 2 valves/cyl DOHC, 4 valves/cyl DOHC, 4 valves/cyl
DISPLACEMENT 376.0 cu in/6,162 cc 315.1 cu in/5,163 cc 315.1 cu in/5,163 cc
COMPRESSION RATIO 11.5:1 9.5:1 9.5:1
POWER (SAE NET) 495 hp @ 6,450 rpm 760 hp @ 7,300 rpm 760 hp @ 7,300 rpm
TORQUE (SAE NET) 470 lb-ft @ 5,150 rpm 625 lb-ft @ 5,000 rpm 625 lb-ft @ 5,000 rpm
REDLINE 6,400 rpm 7,500 rpm 7,500 rpm
WEIGHT TO POWER 7.2 lb/hp 5.5 lb/hp 5.3 lb/hp
TRANSMISSION 8-speed twin-clutch auto 7-speed twin-clutch auto 7-speed twin-clutch auto
AXLE/FINAL-DRIVE RATIO 3.55:1/1.70:1 3.73:1/2.09:1 3.73:1/2.09:1

This it the top part of the data listings for more comparison.  but the formatting got messed up so the top line that IDs the vehicle should obviously be shifted one column right.

 

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13 minutes ago, DrHawkeye said:

A friend in the club who got a GT350 ('16 I think) had the Recaros taken out.  He called the price to exchange the seats Ford's Fat Tax.

You don’t have to be fat for those Recaros seats to be tight. Trust me. 

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