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The Complicated Calculus - Selling Your Car For The GT500

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After my 4 hours of fun at the GT500 Track tour I was planning to put pen to paper, or finger to keyboard, about the technical aspects of the GT500. After reading a few of the magazine reviews about the car I realized there are others with far more automotive experience that can accomplish that task better. The essential question we are all asking ourselves is will you sell you current Ford to obtain one? Having owned a GT350, GT350R, and Whippled Terminator I want to present to you my thoughts on the matter. These are my angles, and many things are left to consider. Please share your thoughts when you finish reading this, as it may help others.
 
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The GT500 is many things. One thing I can confidently say that it wont be, is a disappointment. There is a concert of systems working in harmony to make that car exquisite to drive. Anyone that currently owns a GT350 will have that same special feeling and shit eating grin when you get inside of it. On track the CFTP manages weight, body roll, turn in, grip, throttle application, shifts and everything else without you thinking about it. On the drag strip it makes launching a simple process without you thinking about it. Set a lap record without breaking a sweat then go enjoy a nice charcuterie board in between sessions.... Remember that thought until later...
 
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When you think about combat effectiveness, or picking the right tool for the job, the A7 from Tremec makes complete and total sense. With contenders like the Hellcat and ZL1 LE there would be too much margin for error with a manual if your ultimate goal is to demolish everything else currently on the street. Not only to demolish, but to give customers of all skill levels the ability to harness the power on tap no matter what performance situation they enter into. I spoke with a Tremec engineer at the event and quickly mentioned the epitome of manually shifting automatic transmissions, the Porsche PDK. It was made clear that much effort was put into benchmarking against that transmission, and making this one even better. They did it, although experience with the transmission on the street in traffic is an unknown. If anyone here has been in a high horsepower manual car you know with great power, comes great responsibility. Power management out of an apex or off the line is a constant battle, and often costs you time. I did not think the automatic transmission would be rewarding, but it definitely was. The Whippled Terminator I had was an absolute beast, but really took a skilled driver to extract the most from. The car was either roasting the tires or roasting the tires anytime I put that foot to the floor. I do not foresee that being the case here, and that is a benefit for everyone driving it. The A7 is not only a win for the car, but a win for all of us that want to see the GT500 on the top of the food chain.
 
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HOWEVER, there are many factors about performance car ownership that many never discuss. The ability to fit your kids and wife inside for a trip to cars and coffee. The point of diminishing returns with modifications. Dreading a trip because being caught in traffic will give your left knee atrophy. Tossing the keys to your wife so she can take the car to work and not be in fear of stalling out on the driveway into the office. New enthusiasts that would be too timid to push the car because a stick shift is intimidating. Enthusiasts with a little more mileage on their bodies and cant manage a stick shift anymore. This level of accessibility and versatility makes the GT500 a big win, but will also bring many more buyers into the pool.
 
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As I took the 600 mile drive back home from Vegas I didn’t feel as though I was missing anything in my GT350R. Several other vehicles pulled out cameras and the driver of a Dodge truck chased me down to get a closer look. Downshifts with a quick rev match to pass big rigs was satisfying at my core. The looks, rarity, and balance of the GT350R made me happy with the woman I married. Knowing that when GT500 production gets fully underway there will be plenty of them in production and at dealerships. Aside from the CFTP, exclusivity and ADM wont be the name of the game for long.
 
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My brief time in the GT500 was amazing. What stuck in my mind the most was my feeling of detachment while on track. That previous thought about exquisite management of all the systems, it also was what made me feel a little disconnected from the whole experience. Kind of like when your wife tells you to lay back and let her do all the work. Undoubtedly fun, but I still want to put in a little work.....sometimes. It’s my only criticism, but its not the GT500’s fault. My brain and testosterone filled need to feel like I am the one controlling the car is what holds me back. That will be the basic question you need to ask yourself before you make the move. Are you ready to fundamentally change your mind about what performance driving is like without a manual. Those that are ready will not be disappointed. Those that are not ready, still wont be disappointed, but you may want to keep 6 gears nearby for that occasional fix.

 
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This closing statement is not made to knock any other variant of Mustang on the road, or to seem elitist about the GT350R. It just happens to be the top dog Mustang at the moment. Anyone who has switched from the GT350 to the R knows the cars are different, and even modifications to a GT350 wont necessarily get you there without some financial investment. The limited production, factory aero, and magazine reviews make the R a car of obsession and desire. It’s performance is renowned and envied by other car enthusiasts across the board. If you have a GT350R because you enjoy analog driving input from a manual I do not think selling your current car for the GT500 is the best move. The 500 is amazing, but not such a different feeling than what you have. The control and linear power application built into the GT500 because of the A7 still makes it feel similar to what the GT350R does with the manual. Words do not quite describe the satisfaction of when you heel-toe downshift into the apex, but also wont be enough to wash away the feeling of getting passed by a GT500 right after you hit the straightaway. Getting a slightly used base GT500 to mod how you want would be my advice for R owners. Buying both would be ideal if you got it like that, or if you are mentally ready to let the third pedal go.
 
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If you have a GT350 or other built Mustang though......This GT500 is hella hella fast like VTEC duuu, and you probably wont beat it. Try to build your own and it will likely cost you more with little to be gained in resale. The GT500 is hungry, and equipped with a proper driver and sticky tire it will eat most cars at any event. I can almost guarantee if you best the GT500 in any arena with equal tire compound you probably beat the driver, and not the car. If you did beat the car, chances are you had to give up so much utility in every other arena that the GT500 still wins at being more versatile. Built or bought. Driver skill or the car. Perhaps none of it matters if you are winning. If you own any other variant of performance Mustang short of the R and have the financial ability to afford a GT500, I would be selling my baseball card collection, cancelling the built motor, selling all my spare parts, and calling MSRP dealerships until my fingers bled. First startup and WOT pull will leave you with no regrets.
 
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Not interested. The 2015 + Mustang body style does nothing for me, so putting all kinds of tech / performance upgrades on it doesn't change the basic issue. From what little I've read, it sounds like a hell of a car, & I'm sure that all that buy one won't be disappointed.............( by the way, good pics & text )

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Nice post!!!  I just can’t get over a $80-100K car having that interior, they could’ve at least added stitching on the dash and doors.  Also they need to get over black wheels.

 

I thought about selling my Shelby GT/SC to get one, but in the end I’m getting some mods done instead, new stripes, interior, watts link, brakes, etc.  As much as I love this car I cant confidently say at this price it would be my car of choice.  I’ll enjoy what I have a few more years and see what happens.

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Nice article and pics. Have to agree the $80-$100 sticker is a real deterrent for me. 

I really like my 07SGT for a number of reasons and will not sell it anytime soon.  

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The sticker price is one thing, then don't forget the ADM. Nice car, but it really needs a gear shift, not a dial...just sayin'......

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Nice write up. 😃
As was mentioned above, the new body style does not get my attention either. No matter what wheels or how many huge spoilers and side skirts they can dream up. It’s simply not a Mustang anymore IMO. 
 

That does not for one second take anything away from how much of a beast it will be. Just not for me. :shrug: 

Nice pics too BTW. 👍
 

Edit- Oh, and I also had a ‘16 plain Jane Track Pack. Had it three years and drove it only 2300 miles. With that car, I had a total of five, and virtually never drove it. Sold it because of. Probably never appreciated it the way it was designed. I didn’t exactly “mall crawl” with it, but I could never get over the tuner look of it and it had to go. 😐

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Just want to add I MUCH prefer the black top over the stripes, for what ever reason I am not a fan of the stripes on this car.  I can not stand stripes that do not wrap around the ends that might be part of it, the little gap between the sticker and end of the hood looks awful.  

 

Orange with black Top looks Fantastic!!!

 

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22 hours ago, SoCalSGT said:

The sticker price is one thing, then don't forget the ADM. Nice car, but it really needs a gear shift, not a dial...just sayin'......

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There is no chance I would trade in my KR for anything including the new GT500.  
I have never liked the front of these cars however I do own a 2017. 
Black wheels are boring but I could live with them if they are carbon fiber. 
There are way cooler and more practical cars at that price range.  

With that said I like the automatic and the HP numbers and there is a 95% chance I will buy one when the ADMs go away.  😬

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“Kudos” go to 50 Deep for a great article and excellent pics on the 2020 GT500.  The GT500 sounds like one hell of a car, especially for all those guys that would love to track it.   Personally, I not a fan of black wheels, but I will say they look tough on that Orange one and it gives it some accent.  I love the style of my 08 Shelby GT, but I also really like the style of this new 2020 GT500 because it looks aggressive,tough,and also sleek and streamlined.  I understand the large openings in and around the grille are needed for the huge amount of air for cooling that high-horse engine, so it will take a little time to get used to that look.  The car is definitally a winner and a real power-horse, but I really feel after you add some of the performance options, and painted stripes, etc. it’s getting towards around $100K.  Then you have to add on those ADMs the Dealers are charging and now your in a different category of performance cars that are being offered, just saying.   I know from everything that was said about this new tranny that it’s the best and fastest shifting out there, but me, personally would still prefer a manual as long as my legs will hold out.  I just get more enjoyment from a manual, and I really don’t care about being the fastest, just want to keep the smile on my face when I’m pulling some gears, it’s really just that simple.   :peelout:J.M.O.

 

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That was a fantastic write up on an incredible car.

This makes me want one even more!

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On 11/2/2019 at 11:45 AM, carnut12 said:

Orange with black Top looks Fantastic!!!

 

Would look even better with a Navy Blue top.  Da BEARS!!

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